#monitoring

https://www.hcamag.com/us/specialization/employment-law/bank-of-america-faces-lawsuit-over-alleged-unpaid-computer-boot-up-time/554302

This is very interesting read.
I can see Bridget Engle getting fired and Charlie tossed as well for tracking hours of exempt employees and treating them like hourly. I can't wait to see those reports:) Doubt she finds work again not having a college degree, passing herself off as a techie. Carrie and Stumpf had "eight is great", Bridget and Charlie have "8 hours office tracking."

Got an email about this being installed on computers. We are WFH. Any idea what it actually does? The email was obviously low key but reading between lines seems like it will make sure you're actually doing stuff on your PC? I have no idea really. Sometimes we have downtime at my role, does this mean if I'm not doing something productive like idk reading notes or work files, I'll get in trouble if I step away from PC for a bit?

What is the goal besides layoffs? Any insights?

Purpose: To enforce mandatory physical presence and ensure measurable, minimum value generation during all assigned work periods to maximize shareholder return.

1. Mandatory Physical Presence and Monitoring

All workstations are equipped with a Certified Occupancy Sensor and a visible Presence Timer linked to the employee's system. Departure from the seat before the Work Cycle reaches "Complete" status (Green) is strictly prohibited.

1. Value Creation and AI Productivity Metrics
   All digital activity is subject to continuous monitoring by Proprietary AI Productivity Tools (PAPT). These tools track and quantify:
   Activity Volume: The prerequisite amount of digital activity (e.g., keystrokes, application usage, meeting participation) required for the cycle.

Created Value: The prerequisite amount of measurable output (e.g., ticket closures, code commits, report finalization) deemed necessary for value generation.

1. Incomplete Work Cycle Protocol for Salaried Employees

If an employee fails to achieve both the Activity Volume and the Created Value prerequisites, the Work Cycle will be designated Incomplete (Red Status).

Salaried employees with an Incomplete Work Cycle will be required to immediately extend their workday until all prerequisite metrics are met and the timer reaches "Complete" (Green Status), regardless of scheduled end time. This constitutes uncompensated time necessary to meet core job requirements.

1. Mandatory Adherence Tier and Workstation Restraint

Any employee registering three or more Incomplete or prematurely terminated Work Cycles in a 30-day period will be automatically placed in the Mandatory Adherence Tier.

These employees must formally consent to the installation of an Electronic Workstation Restraint System (Seatbelt), which will remain locked throughout the work period.

Failure to consent to the terms of the Mandatory Adherence Tier and the installation of the restraint system will be viewed as a refusal to comply with mandatory operational policy and will result in immediate termination.

Authorized Release will only occur during assigned scheduled breaks, lunch periods, and one (1) pre-approved, ad hoc restroom break per half-day shift.

Are badge swipes one of variables used for layoffs?

I had my first meeting about this yesterday, and I’m here to tell you that it’s very real. My manager reported my average active hours over a period of time and my team’s average active hours for comparison. Since this was the first meeting, no guidance was given on what to do/not do based on my numbers.

What isn’t clear, and wasn’t provided to me despite asking, is exactly what activity is being captured, but based on the numbers, I have to presume it’s some combination of engaging with applications and being active on Teams calls. Ironically, what wasn’t captured was the quality of my work during the same time period. And before any assumptions are made, my role is fairly senior. I’ve been with Wells for a long time; I’m not in a call center or ops type position. I can’t be any more specific than that without risking anonymity.

So yeah, this is the next phase.

In this thread we talk about how Corpo is spying on you. I'll start:

• FortiClient
• SentinelOne
• SentinelOne plugin for browsers
• ZScaler (even when it's Off) - fun fact, this website is banned!
• LinkedIn "compliance" - yes, they're going through the information on the LinkedIn profiles - both FTE and Contractors

Yesterday I got called out for not working long enough at my assigned location by someone else who works there. They emailed my boss and told her that I am not respecting the "full intent" of the "How We Work" policy. Apparently I leave too soon after I arrive. WTF? Now we have the internal police force looking over our shoulders and counting the minutes we are warming a chair?

Think your digital fingerprint is not all over this. Don’t embarrass your family’s

Anyone hearing a rumor about moving to track length of time laptop is connected on-premises to a USB network (not VPN)? Been hearing this in unrelated areas over the last few weeks, but it seems far too ‘big brother’. I know they can already track every moment on it, but I can’t imagine they’ll micro-manage this much to ensure RTO compliance to the point of tracking length of time on network. Anyone know more about this to confirm if it’s true?

I just saw some discord link and public slack link thread got deleted.

If you value any anonymity, you should not be browsing or posting here from your work computer.

HR and security teams are monitoring Slack, scanning channels and messages for content related to layoffs, and forcing people to delete messages that they deem unacceptable, citing vague security reasons (there is already one thread where messages were forced to be edited/removed). The same is being done for emails.

https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/microsoft-teams/microsoft-teams-is-about-to-become-your-boss-lapdog

Someone posted the other day that this site doesn’t have useful information anymore. Well I’m offering up some right here.

I’ve posted before with insights on RTO being delayed, what the original RTO mandate would look like, how time in office is being tracked, and most recently the stricter 8 hour requirement. All before any of it happened. I’m nobody, but I’m uniquely connected to several people in key roles.

If you’re chuffed at the 8 hour mandate, then you’ll really be up in arms when productivity monitoring metrics start being rolled out. And they will be soon. This is already being tested and will be applied to every LOB. Those who say otherwise are either willfully ignorant or deliberate attempting to hide the truth.

I keep seeing/hearing people say they are on some list for not being in the office 8 hours. If I was on this list would I know? I never do 8 hours, not even 2. As far as I'm aware I'm not on this list, why?

I was skeptical about the 8 hour office hours before, until I got a warning.

People on this forum also warn about activities been tracked, I did not believe it.

Well today , there was a general email about activities been monitored.
Say you go for doctors appt for 2 hours, when you are back you have to spend extra 2 hours.

In summary, your total online activity must be close to 8 hours.

A good friend of mine who has inside knowledge shared with me that your company is now 100% monitored.

It's a contracted service, and they are to monitor everything. The threshold for flagging and reporting is at the lowest bar. The service started in October and the service continues to March 2026.

I'm not sure why the sudden mistrust, but it's disturbing to be working under a microscope.

What is the purpose of this?

My source said that I should share with my trusted coworkers, but I don't even know who I can trust anymore.

Just got back from Dreamforce conference in San Francisco. Some of our technology execs were there. New tracking software and authentication software will be rolling out soon. In a nutshell, every device we use for work will have tracking and timestamping abilities.
Don’t get me started with how they’ll be using AI in the company.

Does Verint still get used to monitor employees? If so, is that for everybody or just certain roles and areas?

I see it running on my laptop. But it’s never been brought up to me before in any discussions. Just curious.

I heard through the grapevine that there is an NDA project in the works that will allow Dell to install a GPS type program on everybody's computers so that they can monitor if you go to office and for how long. As for remote employees, they will be required to do an on-screen "puzzle" type thing to prove you are still at your computer; once an hour.

Nothing concrete but, this is just what I've heard.

New on site tracker posted

It was not completely egregioius. There was only one significant error in one day that shorted me about 2 hours. Why is it that every error is in AT&T's favor. The system never over-estimates our time in the office.

What tools is Truist using to keep an eye on what employees are doing on Truist laptops? Some departments have Sapience, but I've heard there are other tools being utilized. Anyone know what else is being used and which departments are using them?

Does anyone know how the keystroke and activity monitoring reporting is going to work with PTO? If it’s taking an average does it not consider when you are on PTO (so not working that day/several days)?

I know they are tracking work computers in the office. What about personal devices? Can I take a call in the office when I’m in the bathroom? Will this count as activity? Will my score go up or down if I flush? Can they track how many minutes I’m in there via my IP?

Get ready fellow Intelites! ROSE is a new platform that replaces the VF Calendar streamlining vacation tracking, improves ahoft visibility, and supports automated alerts and approvals.

Also, admins and managers can track your location.

Good luck to employees who want to defy return to office! Automated micro management at its finest!

Try to delete a folder that has a bunch of files in it (around 100-200M
If that is slow ...you are under surveillance
Compare with deleting that folder on your home computer

SSD access times are pretty much the same.
If you are running the same OS at home then that is your benchmark

Does anyone definitively know how Wells Fargo is tracking your "working hours"? I hear that the next big layoff is going to target people who are working only 10 to 20 hours a week. I work more than that (I hope) but it got me thinking about how they are tracking it. I have a permanent work from home exception so they cant track me through ID swipes. It just makes me nervous that they might be using a method that excludes me working remotely.

OK. what I heard is that badging in and out will tell the tale. So is the IP info that your PC is sending (via their spy apps) will also confirm in vs. out. You folks - your time online is monitored. Keystrokes, activity, location of PC, etc. All are subject to reporting IMHO. In this case, they KNOW how much time you are in the office. Its down to things like, "oh but wait, I have to pick up my kids, its snowing!" or "um, my mom just had a heart attack, I need to be by her side", or frankly "your rules su-k, I'm not conforming!". Yep, they don't care. Really. 8 hours a day, monitored, and that is 3 days per week in IT. If you can't do it, you have to file an employee check-in with Workday. yes. its true. Sound like a punch card and time clock?? That's for hourly employees, right? But But But....uh huh. You professionals? Better clock in. NOW.

Sapience is installed on you computer. They can see every keystroke and URL you visit.

Have it on pretty good authority from a colleague whose team develops the reporting that the hours in office data pull calc will be based upon your last timestamp on WF network minus first timestamp for the day because it would be too complex to subtract people swiping out for lunch, to attend company events, take meetings in adjoining buildings etc. so don’t worry too much if you need to step out for lunch or if you want to attend a company event that is outside the building etc.

It has been said time and time again that Return to Office is not mandated. Yet leadership has mentioned that there will be people walking around auditing who is present. Has Cisco gone full on micro managing?

Does the office report read badge swiped from any reader or just the building badge reader? My building you have to badge to get into the parking lot. Is that counted?

Are they using attendance record to FMP employees?

In a flagrant disregard for the EU AI act DXC are targeting employees with monitoring data
Watch out your computer sees all you are doing.

Does FIS use user tracking software to monitor our activity. I’ve noticed recently that my manager has been messaging me more frequently when it is a slow day. Really makes it hard to enjoy working here.

My boss says they are tracking our activity daily and sending reports to leadership. Can someone explain what exactly they are tracking? Has anyone seen these reports?

COP AI looks at your writing style in these posts and compared it to your historical company email writing styles. Yes, you will be fired based on your negative views toward the company and leadership.

The security Veep told a colleague of mine that communications does "monitor" these posts and even shares them with executives and other leaders. It is nice to know that he is talking as much as he does. So if a security danger-thing happens at our workplace and something had not been reported earlier to stop it from happening, we now know that an attorney can demand the emails and prove that they knew there was a problem that would endanger many of us. Thousands of associates on another post liked a post begging for someone to do something. Thousands of us! That was a massive show of support and a cry for help. They did it on layoffs.com because they can't trust to report it internally. He also told a colleague that he and his team now have to report to HR and he doesn't like that because they ask for too much to be done right away while they sit on their a-s. He said they were the ones that "had a part in fu--ing up some of his team's onboarding" which I wasn't sure what that meant. But the main point is we now know they do read these and can be held accountable when it happens.

Will sell more EVs, make Ford profitable and reverse our record number of recalls.
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