#badgeswipes

Work for a satellite office, don’t see much of a difference. Are they just tracking badge swipes at worst? I highly doubt this is enforceable across a 50k employee base

Has anyone been flagged for not coming enough?

I work for US Bank's competitor and out of curiousity checked this site. I see a lot of uproar about RTO...believe me, we also went through it in 2022.

My advice to all of you is to be careful.
If they aren't checking your in network office time, they will be. A bunch of our employees got fired over swiping badges and leaving or minimal office network connectivity.
A bunch of others got fired because they were in non compliance.

Sadly, you won't win this fight. We have also tried everything and the push back was immense. Corporate America is all copying each other and they want people back in offices.

Wish you all the best.

They ain’t tracking sh*t keep doing it…

How many out there are now losing their sh-t bc just swiping your badge didn't count and you have no days in office? Su-ks they ran it back 5 months. I wonder if those people are getting the chop.

ALL they care about are badge swipes. That's it. Swipe your badge and you get a gold star for "going to the office."

But does anyone ACTUALLY stay for a full workday? I mean, I drive an hour to the office and stay for 1.5-2 hours and then go home because why stay? Cafeteria food prices are way more expensive than ever and none of the food is not worth the price. One person on my actual team goes to my office and we both leave at the same time. Which is typically 11:30-12pm.

Anyone working on a campus expecting to have to swipe out of the building at the end of the day? I hate to think this is the next move, but I wouldn’t be surprised.

I’m considering an offer at PNC but want to know what it’s actually like. Is it five full days? Do people badge in and then leave at lunch and work the rest of the day at home? I don’t think I can ever go back to five full days but the role seems interesting. So just want to get a sense.

I got sent screenshot of my office report after I was told I wasn't making it in the required amount of time. (I had an approved exception for some time January, which wasn't factored into the report making it look like, I haven't been in the required time).

4 hrs of pto counts as a day in as do holidays.

Ask any questions you may have!

I’m sure most of you noticed there is now tracking of your badge swiped available in Workday.

When you open the report, there is a column labeled “Office Designation”

What does everyone’s say for that? I was told I have to come to the office but my designation says “Out of office”

My director told me the other day that execs are only looking for a minimum of 45 days/quarter of in office visits. A quarter is 13 weeks which c ums out to be 65 business days. Which is basically 3-4 days/week and is also the same as what it was when it was optional 2 years ago. PTO and holidays don't count against you so, at least you can plan your RTO visits now. I sure af will anyways.

I also asked if they have plans on monitoring IN OFFICE time and he said no but if they ever do, then it has to go through legal and HR first, then be made an official policy.

FYI, those of you who are going in 5 days/week and working 8 hours IN office... technically speaking, your orgs execs can't hold you to being in office for 8 hours as that is not an official policy.

The policy is that they monitor badge swipes. There is zero mention of time spent in office, however. Heck, even my director told us with a wink to do with that info as we wish - aka badge swipe and go home, if you want.

Long story short, there is NO policy that demands ANY employee stay for 8 hours a day, or any set amount of time. Those of you who are, are being taken advantage of by your loser executives.

Does a “badge swipe” count if you only badge at the front doors, or do you have to also badge at the turnstyle? Asking for a friend

Or are we ok with just swiping my badge and leaving after lunch?

Things I learned today. We have 3 employees with a FTO designation. Never once been to the office in the 19 months since it was mandated for us. They say the RTO mandate was never intended for them. Their lives have been more difficult and they've faced more challenges than the rest of us. It gets better. They are part of some loose knit group who conveniently believe minority women cannot be their best unless they work from home. It's important for their children to see them as they set the standard for their coworkers. I have questions, but the most pressing is, how is it I get warned twice about a 15 minute blip on the presence report, and this concerted effort to thwart RTO exists for 19 months? Make me understand.

Supervisors can see when direct reports are not in the office. Are they able to see the time the employee badge in and out of the building too?

Anyone in HR/IT/security know if they’re tracking time spent in office or if badging in is enough?

Facing a dangerous cold snap that will impact most of the HCSC offices, not a single message was sent from anyone that said “you know what, because we value your health and safety, don’t worry about badging in on Friday. Your wellbeing is our more important to us than checking a box or monitoring your whereabouts.”

How is your RTO going?
I hear that all offices are packed and do not have enough space, not enough conference rooms, etc…. Certainly the case in Dallas and Atlanta!

I do go 3 times a week, but just badge in and go home right away.

Been trying to organize a badge-in service, but looks like all people are a bunch of pu----s…

Time to raise up and organize an insurrection against the IBM Execs!

My manager believes to follow the company direction (3 times per a week) and my team is forced to go while all other people I work with still work from home 100 percent.

Office is always empty and there are just a few teams I know comply with return to office directive.

Last layoff had nothing to do with it either. Nobody who still works from home got impacted

I am in DFW. Is your office empty too?

Are badge swipes one of variables used for layoffs?

heads up - if you are swiping in at an office that does not match your formal office location, they are definitely looking at you. Ask your manager to change your location (if possible) or start coming in to the correct location otherwise this is the excuse they’re looking for…

Curious. Is there a time limit trip wire when you badge out to leave that is on a report. Say I badge in then leave 3-4 hours later. Do I come up in a report because I didn’t stay all work day?

There are so many questions about RTO and many wrong assertions. This is what I KNOW based on direct involvement with the process.

• Badge Swipes IN are tracked and reported. The reports are provided to GL 32 leaders every Monday morning. The report contains the employee, the day and the time of the swipe. It also shows through a conditional format those that are non-compliant
• In-office duration is NOT tracked. The only way to track duration would be to have exit swipes. Exit swipes will NEVER be required because they violate fire codes in the US. You can't have the doors lock people in.
• Seats ARE randomly audited but only by "uptight" managers, not as a required practice. I was called out once for not being in my assigned desk. I was actually in the office but opted to use a "huddle room" for work because I was on the phone constantly and the area they had me in was loud with dev teams that had zero to do with my job.
• People have had "swipe teams". That's groups that get together and each week someone brings everyone's badges into the office and swipes for folks. They trade off week over week. It's common in non-guarded buildings and will 100% get you terminated "with cause". It became evident in my city because the swipe report occasionally show entire groups coming in at the same time everyday for a week. The "swipers" were in other words sloppy. I've seen it.

Does coming into the office over the weekend count as a badge swipe? Could I come in on a Saturday for a few hours and WFH on a mid week day? It's still 5 days a week I would think?

Ok, what is the deal with the in office hours tracking? I’m hearing it’s based on badge swipes, connecting to the network.

Can anyone in management enlighten me what they’re looking at? Is it 4 hours, 5 hours?

Apparently there is some reporting but no one has seen it so we don’t even think it exists. I need someone who really knows what’s going on to shed some light on this please!

The below is said in jest, and is probably not something anyone should or would actually do. Also, it would only truly work if someone lived VERY close to the office.

Go to office @ 7:00 am. Leave office at 7:05…..

Go home.

Come back at 2:55, badge in.

Leave at 3:00

First badge in 7:00 am
Last badge out 3:00 pm

Calculated time in office: 8 hours

Actual time in office: 10 minutes

I know people are getting new security badges. People are telling me these are being used to track time in-office. Is that correct? Why wouldn't they just track your time connected to the office network?

For the coffee badgers since RTO, seems we have been busted big time.

Anyone has any idea how to game the system with this 8 hour rule.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

My understanding is there are two Reports
1) Days in office - Badge swipes.
-some buildings do not have a building exit point.

 - Badge point is not sopisticated enough to log a time, only date? 
    Why is it nessisary for them to sift through thousands of IPs/machine names to   determine 'time in office'?  previously they were only checking for where an emplyess was logged in if they wanted to scrutinize the emploee.

2) Hours in office - network IP and user login

• many emplyees share a computer. one user could be logged in over night.
  • Considering that may employees share a computer the logged in user or lan id needs to be determined. How is that being done? Probaby by the spyware.

I belive two major flaws exist:
They are sitting on a metric ton of data.
No way to pull meaning reports due to inaccurant data.

So many flaws in these reporting methods. It almost begs to gamed.

Ford is all talk and no action. Those engineers that have been working from home in Michigan are still working from home. I don't see them at the office or the plants that I am working everyday. Ford should track their badge, when they swipe in and when they swipe out. Ford needs to terminate those that are no in compliance with the company policy. Follow the good example from Elon Musk, it works. Everyone are back to the office 5 days per week at Tesla.

How are they accurately measuring these? My coworker runs outside 6 times a day so does each time he badges in count towards his 12 day a month requirement? Does reporting show like 40 badge swipes?

It was not completely egregioius. There was only one significant error in one day that shorted me about 2 hours. Why is it that every error is in AT&T's favor. The system never over-estimates our time in the office.

Company is gearing up for more layoffs, this time for Stamford right around performance reviews next year.

If you haven’t already noticed the gates in the garage are now closed and they open at 4pm. They do this on purpose to make you scan your badge when you leave.
Leadership is also keeping tabs of your time (not everyone has been asked to do this).

So! Take the train if you can to work. Everyone scans in when they first enter. When you leave the turnstiles open automatically and they cannot get a timestamp when you left, only if you drive in and leave before 4pm.

We don’t have Columbus Day off, company is greedy with your time and should not be tracking you like this especially with all these reorgs happening.

Our host today is none other than the '5 o'clock shadow', and today’s question is:

What makes me excited to come to work at BNY every day?

Survey says…
The PEOPLE! (ding, ding, ding . . . great answer!)

Yes, the same people who’ve been driving our culture, transforming our engine, and—plot twist—being systematically offboarded to optimize shareholder value!

Because nothing says “culture” like a quarterly spreadsheet of headcount reductions and a celebratory bell ring when the stock ticks up 0.3%.

Culture now comes with 4 daily badge swipes per week, 54 hours of required new training, and a ghoulish labyrinth-style corn maze set up to ensure your non-compliance with HR and BNY Training policy requirements. Can you say: "NO SEVERANCE FOR YOU!"

Let’s break it down:

• People drive our culture.
  -- Especially the ones who remain after the reorg, the re-reorg, and the “strategic realignment.” Survivors of the Hunger Games: Finance Edition.

• Culture is the engine behind our transformation.
  -- And like any good engine, it runs lean, burns out occasionally, and is replaced every fiscal year with a cheaper offshore model.

• Transformation is our purpose.
  -- Which explains why every team meeting feels like a live-action episode of “Who Moved My Org Chart?”

So yes, I come to work excited—excited to see which department has been renamed, which colleague has vanished mid-email thread, and which new acronym we’ll pretend to understand until it’s sunset in Q2.

Because at BNY, we don’t just value people...

We VALUE them, DEPRECIATE them, and then WRITE THEM OFF — all in the name of transformation — VVV style.

So for all you kiddos out there young and old ... Trick or Treat and Happy Halloween!!!

If you live near an office and go in above and beyond the three days 8 hours a day requirement- say working a half day in office on day 4 - this will actually hurt you. The calculation is looking at average hours in office per day so a half day will lower your average. So there's no point in going in unless you plan to spend the full day

Additionally,if you take a half day PTO and then go in the office the second half of that day, this will also hurt your average. A half day of PTO is considered a full day in office so do not go in beyond that.

Its a combination of badge swipes and connection to office network.

Average is currently calculated on a 4 week basis but the intention is to ramp up to a 13 week average.

OK. what I heard is that badging in and out will tell the tale. So is the IP info that your PC is sending (via their spy apps) will also confirm in vs. out. You folks - your time online is monitored. Keystrokes, activity, location of PC, etc. All are subject to reporting IMHO. In this case, they KNOW how much time you are in the office. Its down to things like, "oh but wait, I have to pick up my kids, its snowing!" or "um, my mom just had a heart attack, I need to be by her side", or frankly "your rules su-k, I'm not conforming!". Yep, they don't care. Really. 8 hours a day, monitored, and that is 3 days per week in IT. If you can't do it, you have to file an employee check-in with Workday. yes. its true. Sound like a punch card and time clock?? That's for hourly employees, right? But But But....uh huh. You professionals? Better clock in. NOW.

Have a q: have some people been let go for not being in the office frequently enough (getting enough badge swipes per week)...

Curious if people have been termed for not being in the office frequently enough/ getting 3 badge swipes per week.

ADP doesn’t seem to enforce policies like attendance, punctuality, sick time day before or after holiday so is the # of days in office enforced?

If professional employees are going to be treated like children and have every second with fingers on keyboard and/or within the walls of the designated workplace tracked and reported, and those things will be used against them (and they will, even beyond the day/hour requirements, don't think they won't), they should at least be able to see their own swipe in/out and network on/off time (both in the office and remotely). "We know something you don't know" is a terrible practice.

Does the office report read badge swiped from any reader or just the building badge reader? My building you have to badge to get into the parking lot. Is that counted?