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Laid off

I was laid off last week it was so surreal I'm a hard worker, always come in on time, meet company goals, never written up. I get good reviews and exceeds expectations.
But they do this to me? Are they not basing this off job performance?
I'm fighting their notion that I'm always late. I asked late to what! They said they couldn't give me details and sign here is you want the package. Well I signed but I will also be filing for unemployment and giving them a copy of the recording of my lay off! I bet their lies fall apart when I show them my Google Timeline! Also emails and teams messengers screen saved where I constantly responded before 8am. I'm done with these fools!


The Labor Market - AI & The Fed.

In regards -

To the Labor market.

This is where Treasury (Bessent) and the Fed would be (Totally Wrong).

No amount of Fed cuts will keep the Unemployment rate from rising further.

This is due to (2) things -

AI promoting gains in productivity, and efficiency; reducing the need for employees over time (mainly in computer-driven jobs, including manufacturing (AI robots) in the future; this is where the Trump thesis is (Totally Wrong) in regards to bringing back manufacturing to the U.S. (employee-wise).

Risks to (rising) Inflation (to the Real consumer-driven (68% of GDP economy) over time increasing Stagflation - High Inflation - Low Growth.

The (Major Downside to AI) while it may lead to increased GDP growth.

AI does (not) pay Tax revenues (replacing Employees that (actually) do).

As the U.S. National debt (exponentially) keeps rising, now past $38.2 Trillion with Interest paid to outside Investors (U.S. based, Japan; China; etc.) of $969.0 Billion a year (almost a Trillion) by U.S. taxpayers; it becomes a (Much bigger) problem weighing on the Real consumer-driven (68% of GDP) U.S. economy (where there are (currently (7) debt Bubbles) at (record) levels.

The (7) Debt Bubbles (at record levels) are Household Debt, Housing, Credit Card, Automotive, Student Loan, and Stock purchase financing.

(All) of these (7) Debt Bubbles are in the Trillions and keep rising, with (Defaults) are an ever-growing problem over time.


Layoff Advice

As we get closer to showtime, what are some smart things to do if your name ends up getting called?

This can be tax stuff, general networking, etc.

Based on what I have seen on this site plus common sense, here is what I have gathered.

  1. Wait to sign your offer so that you are paid in 2026.
  2. Don’t go out screaming and burning bridges, you never know if you will end up back here.
  3. Apply for state unemployment ASAP after you are fired.
  4. Make sure all of your personal files are off your computer.
  5. Don’t bother packing up unless you have really valuable stuff. Let the company deal with it.

What am I forgetting?


What to do if you've been laid off

I'd like to start a tip thread for any impacted folks this week. I was laid off a year ago and fortunately have managed to get enough income to not net a negative this past year, but don't kid yourself -- the market is that bad out there. No matter your seniority or valued your skills, it's in your best interest to plan for an icy winter. Make this your fulltime job as soon as you're cut to put yourself in the best possible position.

1) File for unemployment immediately, do not wait til severance pay is finished. The process takes time and there is no backpay. Now, you won't be able to get checks until you stop getting income, but despite the program lasting a year you only really get up to about 6 months of checks (if receiving no other income). But if you don't find employment a year after you signed up, you can sign right back up -- and guess what? The severance pay you had received a year prior will count as your W2 earnings, qualifying you for unemployment again. If you wait 2-6 months after that, you might not have enough W2 earnings to requalify for the same amount. TLDR: file for EDD today.

2) Get on SNAP, get an EBT card. You don't need to do this if you're still earning severance, your earnings are decided based on bills and people in your household. However, aside from grocery money, you just having an EBT card gives you discounts off of your electric bill (mine's $16 off every bill), internet bill ($30/mo account for Spectrum), even Amazon Prime membership (50% off, paid monthly).

3) Join the paramount-alumni slack channel (paramount-alumni.slack.com) and any other post layoff groups to network and find immediate support.

4) AJCC / WIOA offers free job training and tuition reimbursement for educational courses for you to pursue a new career. Wanna go take on 1-2 semesters at a University to learn something new? You could learn anything from marketing, data security, project management, business, healthcare, any fields that the growing jobs report will support. Here's the site to find the offered courses in CA: https://wioa.i-train.org/iTrain/tpd/

Now, this application process is complicated to say the least. Every Workforce office works completely independently of one another. There is no central HQ, they're not the IRS. They're more like a McDonalds -- they're all privately owned and each offers the same stuff, just some are more well supported than others, some are a little cleaner than others. Do not trust online applications through websites like CalJobs, that online application literally goes to nobody and no one -- you need to do it in person. You need to call your local Workforce office and ask them about job training/tuition reimbursement, and how much they can offer. I called 5 different offices before I found a place an hour north, funded by Goodwill, that would pay me $5000 for schooling. You'll need a LONG list of documents to bring with you e.g. proof of citizenship, birth, address, selective service, college degree (I took a photo of my degree) -- bring them all to the orientation appointment. Once approved, you just need to supply which courses you want to take to your case manager.

Good luck out there.


Don't Panic

There's a lot of anxiety and speculation going on now, and I just wanted to post a friendly reminder to take care of yourself. You're not alone in being anxious, losing sleep, and struggling to function at work. (I am too!) But so far, all we have are rumors, and nothing is confirmed yet. Time will tell.

Also, getting laid off is better than getting fired or quitting, because getting laid off usually comes with severance pay and potentially qualifies you for unemployment if you can't find another job before the severance runs out. All things considered, I would prefer that over enduring through RTO and other nonsense meant to encourage us to quit. So the best thing you can do for yourself is to try to focus on work and not give them any reason to fire you while we wait this out. (Easier said than done, I know...) Meanwhile, dust off the old resume and make some connections. Collect any personal effects from the office before Tuesday. Take care of your mental health.


Is the current severance enough, considering the state of the job market?

I know people who were laid off from other companies more than six months ago who are still looking for a job. Is the money that will be given to laid off employees really going to be enough to cover such long periods of unemployment? And on that note, does anybody know if you can get unemployment along with severance?


Federal job cuts add strain to weakening labor market in U.S.

Roughly 100,000 federal employees officially left the government payroll this week, deepening concerns about the softening U.S. job market, The Wall Street Journal reported Saturday. The departures coincide with an ongoing government shutdown that could bring additional losses.

The cuts stem from the administration’s deferred-resignation program, which allowed employees to leave but continue receiving pay and benefits for months. About 154,000 took the deal, according to the Office of Personnel Management, with most staying on the books through Sept. 30. Combined with a hiring freeze, voluntary exits and layoffs, the federal workforce is expected to shrink by hundreds of thousands this year.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/federal-job-cuts-add-strain-to-weakening-labor-market-in-u-s/ar-AA1NQYAt?ocid=finance-verthp-feeds


Kroger is offering severance

To those affected by the last round of layoffs, Kroger is planned to offer severance.

Personally I was in KTD but they are offering 1 month per yr and x percent on your bonus plus any remaining time off.

I expect to receive the documents soon so I don't know how this effects unemployment claims. Please check your state and read before you sign anything or get a lawyer first.

26 weeks of part pay is a plus but it may be less than your severance so you may need to pick.

Be advised they are not withholding taxes on your severance so account for that yourself or your lawyer (preferred).


Caring for you like family really?

So end of June my disabled son is fired from Allegheny Health Network and denied unemployment. 3 weeks short of 3 years so no PTO pay out. Nice. Thank you for caring for him like family. You claim you didn’t know he was disabled but you are a healthcare provider and it’s documented huh? So when I visit your hospital this means the service will be flawless so I look forward to my next visit.


Be grateful you have a job

Just imagine being laid off and having to deal with a job market that's incredibly hostile to employees. Yes, Chevron su-ks. It's not the company it once was. Working here is far from great. But at least you're working. A former coworker who was laid off more than six months ago is still unemployed. He'd trade any of you without thinking.


Show is ending guys ..

We are facing a severe recession that will lead to widespread corporate bankruptcies and the decline of the dollar's dominance in the global economy. The impact will be profound .Let's be aware, ours may be the final generation that knows what it means to 'have a job.'


Not looking pretty out there for job seekers

With over 20 years experience in contracting and network management, recently at a senior level, I’m not getting the time of day by other employers. It’s a bunch of thanks but no thanks. I did get an offer to apply as a pharmacy tech at CVS for $16/hr though - so that’s promising. 😉
Word of caution, hang on to what you have until you have somewhere else to go. I know it’s hard, and the corporate su-k is su-king hard, but if you are not financially independent it’s going to really rough for awhile.


Volunteering for layoffs

Does anyone know if it’s actually possible/a thing to volunteer to be on a layoff list for the next round? If it’s inevitable to hit all departments, would rather it be me than others on the team who need this job more than I do -and at least with the layoff you get severance/unemployment vs. nothing when quitting.

Please do not comment with attacks or hurtful insults. This is an honest, genuine question and am curious - this board has been inundated with people insulting people on repeat…which is neither helpful or productive.


I hope laid off folks will be okay

Being laid off right now, when everybody is letting people go and nobody is hiring is scary as fu--ing he-l. I've been trying to find something for the past few months assuming something like this might happen and I had no luck. I truly hope they have better luck and land something right away.


Job hunt…

Is anyone having any luck securing employment? I have had no luck after applying to many so called openings. Reading other boards there are many others in the same boat, and I personally have not seen it this bad before. It seems like most of the job postings only exist to get information from people to be sold to others. Did companies just stop hiring? Even outside oil and gas the same seems to be going on.


Here some older posts I just reviewed on this topic, all posts are from non-SAP boards and are US specific:


If I got severance, am I eligible to apply for unemployment?

https://www.thelayoff.com/t/XI0a1hG

Direct Link: @XI0a1hG


When can we file for Unemployment?

https://www.thelayoff.com/t/IYjXTrv

Direct Link: @IYjXTrv


If Anyone knew received Severance package could affect to apply unemployment benefit?

https://www.thelayoff.com/t/OHrYPTw

Direct Link: @OHrYPTw


If Anyone knew received Severance package could affect to apply unemployment benefit?

https://www.thelayoff.com/t/OHrYPTw

Direct Link: @OHrYPTw


Unemployment

https://www.thelayoff.com/t/RMn3YYF

Direct Link: @RMn3YYF


When can layoffed people file for Unemployment insurance benefits?

https://www.thelayoff.com/t/JdnJ5Ke

Direct Link: @JdnJ5Ke


Are you applying for unemployment?

https://www.thelayoff.com/t/RJ4x0jH

Direct Link: @RJ4x0jH


Unemployment benefits

https://www.thelayoff.com/t/TF31IIa

Direct Link: @TF31IIa


You can apply for unemployment for the Furlough weeks. Miss out for first week but eligible if 4th quarter furloughs continue.

https://www.thelayoff.com/t/JfeWq7f

Direct Link: @JfeWq7f


Collecting Unemployment - What are the rules and regulations about collecting unemployment?

https://www.thelayoff.com/t/ApIOiKT

Direct Link: @ApIOiKT


Unemployment being challenged

https://www.thelayoff.com/t/O1b49zZ

Direct Link: @O1b49zZ


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