#rto

Let's vent in this thread. That's it, that is the message.

Currently, quite a few fully remote workers are still with the company. Once they got rid of promotions/job growth for remote employees, it seemed like layoffs are imminent. What are the chances that remote employees are let go once RTO 2.0 starts in Feb?

I guess we need it every once in a while. It so su-ks.

And push as many of us out as they can along the way. Anyone who thinks this is about anything other than maximizing profits by getting rid of people on the cheap is being naive.

There are plans for laying off the remote employees w/o poss relocation to HQ in December. They think it will be too messy to offer remote workers option to move.

These may get pushed back to Jan/Feb.

The board has been coming into the office several days a week even during the pandemic. This is not about productivity, it’s about satisfying an unfounded perception from the board that also meets the cut numbers they want for profitability.

The in office reporting is officially out. For those that work 3 days in office and 2 days remote. Although the expectation is a full 8 hour day, the requirement for in office hours for reporting purposes is 7 hours. Anything below that you’ll get flagged on the reports.

If so, why? they did move homes and complied to RTO.

Question in the title. I've got a three-hour volunteering event lined up, will be four hours counting the drive to the site. Unclear if this will be counted as an in-office day or if I need to go in another day to account for it.

It seems everyone comes to this site to complain, but I am here to celebrate. Our new CEO has announced that 3 day RTO is here to stay. This is wonderful news and proof that Srini trusts his leadership team and all of us to do our jobs! Thank you Srini! you are awesome!

Does anyone have reliable information on planned changes for RTO - are we going to be expected in office more days soon?

The issue with big corporations is that they have a one-size fits all approach to their employees, which lets face it - it's the least effective model. The responses from this post is proof of this. Good companies, take the time to take a macro look at what works for each department. Sure, it makes sense that creatives and productive teams would benefit from being in the office 5 days a week, but so many other departments, finance, legal, etc., would probably do well with 2 to 3 days a week. Their deliverables do not depend on staff being in the office every day. Companies that employ RTO is not really about collaboration or bringing everyone together. It's a tactic. To force people out (called a backdoor layoff - you can look it up) and to create a controlled office labor. Check out those companies that have done this in the last few years - isn't it odd, those announcements come with public admission of issues in the company, along with huge layoffs?

Good post. Putting it up for visibility.
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If it’s true that a full RTO mandate is coming in January, that’s what will really hit us. They’ll 100% set the requirements so they’re impossible, or near impossible, for a lot of people to meet, fully aware that everyone will bend over backwards to comply given the job market. RTO will just become another way to push people out without calling it cuts.

Expect an email after Thanksgiving. Welcome to the new Verizon

Employee raises safety risk after third occurrence. Met with gaslighting and firing. Clear from the video that it happened:

https://cbsaustin.com/news/local/his-g-n-just-went-off-guard-says-sig-p320-fired-unexpectedly-at-usaa-guard-gate

Typical USAA! distrust employees and don't fix. RTO doesn't fix leadership attitude.

rto is complete garbage. i've been forced back 4 days a week. in the past month, i've talked to 3 people total in the office and sat in conference rooms taking meetings where almost no one from the office showed up - they just took calls from their cube or a focus room or worked remote. the people i actually work with aren't in the office or even in my city. but my whole life got turned upside down for some stupid ego-driven rule.

i'm using more water, gas and energy - bad for the environment. my stress went up - bad for my mental health. and i had to buy a bunch of stuff to go back (lunch containers, work clothes, shoes, a laptop bag, etc.) so rto costs me money. this is after 5 years of almost no raises, barely any bonus and 5+ years without a promotion.

i feel stuck because the job market su-ks right now. but yeah, at least i still have a job and didn't get laid off. hoping things shift back to favor employees eventually, however long that takes.

I have it on good authority: the plan is first 4 days in unassigned seating, then 5 days.
If you don't like it, you'll be asked to leave (as stated in recent townhalls)

Been hearing a lot of chatter of another wave of layoffs coming within the next few months. Figure the 5 days back in office is them hope people will voluntarily leave. Been hearing a lot of scrutiny towards remote workers that are outside the rto office mileage.

Hard to focus on the job on hand, and not looking for employment elsewhere. So much red tape you kinda feel like you are handcuffed and just waiting for the hammer.

Anyone else hear anything about another wave?

I know VH has one foot out the door, but it was definitely disappointing to hear the shift from earlier conversations where he said they were amplifying our concerns about RTO (and even had an internal task force working on possible solutions/compromises) to a resigned attitude of defeat as in “ it is what it is, the company is changing.”

And before all the naysayers jump in to complain that people don’t want to work, please respectfully keep that opinion to yourself. The company has built a great culture on remote work and been very successful. I have zero problem working, I just don’t see the need to do it in a specific location.

Bootlickers, go lick a boot.

We’d easily have enough FCF to pay employee bonuses if:

1. C-suite didn’t burn unquantifiable amounts of money on RTO
2. Legg didn’t donate our cash to Amdocs and TechM
3. We fired the worst performing employee at the company that makes 30 million a year

encourage people to push back on the RTO. I took some time this week and wrote letters to the board and upper management. I stated why I think RTO is not the right move and provided evidence proving that remote work is better for the company and employee in the long run.

They might not care about one letter but I think we all should be giving this feedback. Be factual but also explain how it is affecting your life negatively.

Emails are easy to ignore but tons of letters arriving to corporate will get noticed.

Ron is interim so maybe if we all show our displeasure we can get some changes made.

We have to go beyond complaining to other another and our immediate supervisor.

If anyone is interested I would be happy to share the studies I submitted.

I could be delusional but what could we lose?

Anyone see today’s nuke on The Post about RTO?

The guy just comes off like a j@ck @$$.

120,000-140,000 corporate employees voluntarily departing in the next 2-3 months.

Vote with your feet! Your signing bonus will be the severance that you're passing up.

Any truth to no work from home in 2026?

The days of Fannie Mae being the best company to work in is now gone. 5 days in-person, constant stress from layoffs, political environment, no promotions.. 30% of my team just gone… Not even contractors. They are FTE

My original assumption is that fully remote workers are going to get laid off soon since this guy is adamant about enforcing full RTO. But who knows these days..

What happens when these two collide?

Perhaps this is old news, but heard for the first time today that even established telecommuters within 35 miles of an office are going to be required in office 5 days.

Wow. I heard they’re about to lay off another 2000 employees, most likely in order to make room for fully in person work next year

I’ve noticed not many coming into nj office even though I’m coming daily. Is there a rule to not come or work home? I’m getting drained.

Our VP sent an exhasperated email saying that she is doing all she can to "address the cleanliness concerns" in the office and that she has no control over the lack of desk availability. At least on our floor the break room fridge is a complete toxic waste zone and there are regularly old used plates and takeout containers with food still in them laying around.

Kinda funny that people at that level are having to hear and answer to those complaints. Maybe we can have a VP of Custodial Infrastructure?

Tom Brady told us we were the best in the business a year ago. Was that fake news? Since then we’ve done meaningful pulse surveys, volunteering, moments that matter such as endless reorgs, had a successful RTO rollout, and photo shoots. We bring our whole selves to work and take guilt free vacations. Our customers love us. And we’re going to win the holidays with our great products and services. Don’t tell me we’ve been lied to!

We appreciate your sacrifice to help us older retireries collect for many years to come. Get back into those office cubicles and make JF proud.

Google “Chevron Benefits” and navigate to the India section. You’ll see that employees there are offered the option to work from home on Mondays.

When you compare this to the far more limited flexibility given to U.S. Payroll employees, it paints a clear picture: Chevron is providing its offshore teams with more favorable working arrangements than its U.S. workforce.

Clearly a plan to force US Payroll employees to resign without severance.

The employee-employer power balance has shifted firmly to the employer, according to Glassdoor’s 2026 Worklife Trends report — and it has prompted employees to reexamine their engagement in turn.

https://www.hrdive.com/news/forever-layoffs-and-rto-pressure-employers-hold-the-power-again/805673/

Does anyone have any information on 5 day RTO dates for international offices? Are they also going to offer a buyout the same way the US did?

Be careful out there folks they’re tracking everyone’s KPI for RTO tracker and that data will be used as an input for the upcoming layoffs by VPs and HR

There will be many leadership “retiring” announcements over the next 48 hours. Many of those emails are shocking as people have no idea in their orgs. You shouldn’t be fooled as this is an attempt to make you believe that the leadership is suffering like the regular rank and file. Leadership’s numbers pale to what will happen on Thursday. They will all get at least a year of pay and a year of medical while real workers will only get a max of 35 weeks.
Which day will they tell us about the 5 days a week RTO? It is too sinister not to announce to drive the nail deeper in our hearts.

Only 6 more weeks until 4x days WFO.
I can't wait for us all to get back to the office - we are better together.
This will make us beat Exxon for sure

The best people leave first. Not that Medtronic seems to care about keeping skilled and experienced employees.

Any chances that those who are in an office are safer than remote workers?

Seems like there is an RTO push, so maybe remote will get hit harder?