#returntooffice

Who else strongly feel that company HQ should fix their entrance + parking chaos first before calling more professionals back to office?

The single 2-lane entrance the is crossed by walking construction workers is frustrating/dangerous in the morning.

But leaving is worse. That merge as taking a right past the exit gates into a single 1-lane exit for 50ft is absurd for a F500 HQ campus. No wonder the parking garage gridlocks up to the fourth floor as teams all exit at the same time. Simply install a second exit to the main street.

Remove the big speed bumps that slow the sports cars down to .5mph. Leave the 5 smaller bumps for each set and that will help smooth the flow of traffic in the morning. Mirrors around corners would also help as they have designed pedestrians walking into elevators right by a vehicle blind corner.

This is common-sense improvements before calling back more people RTO.

Come on admit it who thought up this idea of everyone having to book their desks? Forcing everyone into 4 days a week now coming up with yet another way to sc--w us all over. Can you believe there is other places to work where you can just go into an office and sit down at will. Madness.

Ford Land RTO is coming next week yay and already the tone amongst employees is becoming heated. Order your magnetic desk name plate, be sure to take it with you daily because of the center of gravity nonsense. One of my co-workers in Mexico told me that he is not allowed to park at the office and a large group is being forced to park at a mall nearly 1 hour and must take a shuttle. So add 2 hours a day to your daily commute and work schedule, great idea!! Some shuttles stop at 5 PM, so you have a 6 PM meeting with Asia, too bad for you, call an Uber. Who is the Einstein that is running this circus!

Yeah, it's weird here. Yeah, the morale isn't great and the Coporate big-wigs make life more difficult on their employees than they have to. But get out and enjoy the weekend, everyone. Happy Labor Day!

But to the on-highs who decided that the still hybrid office employees have offended the company by having the audacity to celebrate a federal holiday on a Monday and elected to punish us by forcing everyone into the office next Thursday; I hope the beer is warm and the grill breaks.

How does WF track how many hours you are in office? You don’t need to swipe badge out in some buildings

How can I force a severance package? Stop coming to the office?

I don’t get why we’re being told to come back to the office. It doesn’t feel like it’s about the work. We already proved we can do our jobs at home. It just feels like productivity theater.

They say attendance is going to be part of reviews now. But the bonus is laughable and the RSUs don’t mean much. Doesn’t seem worth it.

What gets me is the execs still working remote. Some of them barely show up at all. Feels pretty hypocritical.

And honestly they can’t fire everyone. The company needs us more than they admit. These rules only matter if we all go along with them.

Comments in the main thread:

• "All they could say for remote workers (like me) was that we 'might be expected to relocate.'" (Anonymous, Post ID: @q8+1k3eddae2)
• "There will come a time where Kroger will have to let go of the whole RTO business if they want to be competitive again." (Anonymous, Post ID: @q7+1k3eddae2)
• "Heard all fully remote buyers are gone" (Anonymous, Post ID: @n8+1k3eddae2)
• "remote got laid off so vague and cold - pre-recorded." (Kranger0826, Post ID: @pf+1k3eddae2)
• "not all remote associates were let go. source: me, a remote associate on a fully remote team." (Anonymous, Post ID: @pc+1k3eddae2)

They know they will score even lower than in March if they come out with the mandatory RTO policy!
Watch out!

The RTO mandate begins next week. I honestly thought I would be seeing more anger about it on here as the time got closer, but instead, the discussion about it has just kind of dried up. Has everyone just kind of quietly given up and accepted it? Or is nobody talking about it because people are just planning to ignore it? Curious to hear people's thoughts now that it's almost here.

For everyone complaining that the backlash to RTO gets tiring, here's why it won't go away.

Outsourcing means they don't believe you can't do the job remotely.

Work has changed. You can do everything with an internet connection.

Housing prices and cost of living are insane, but America has a lot of undeveloped land where we could build affordable housing for decent costs if you didn't have to commute to one building just to be on your computer.

Teams are not co-located, so collaboration is a made up reason to be in the office.

Commuting and office buildings are huge carbon emissions contributors, so I dont want to hear from any of these companies what they think of the environment.

The world has changed. We should embrace it. Companies could get teams together for one offs. They can even have optional offices or offices for execs who love it so much, but the excuse that this is what we've always done just doesn't make sense anymore.

Be honest, HBAs want to silence voices questioning the current policy because the status quo because it benefits them. They don’t want the firm to revisit its current policy of allowing HBA roles based solely on geographic location because it might mean a change that disrupts their ability to work with little to no accountability wherever and largely whenever they choose without incurring the costs of commuting. They don’t want ANY disruptions to their sweetheart deal and will shout down anyone that even tries to advocate for a change.

HBAs shouldn’t point the finger at the firm while selfishly praising and protecting both explicitly and implicitly a two-tiered, unfair system that unilaterally benefits only them. If HBAs actually cared about the negative impacts of RTO on hybrid associates they would push the firm for a policy that treats all associates fairly. Instead, to preserve their own interests in keeping the current policy in place they push narratives of “isolation” and raise fears of lack of career progression (as if there is any for hybrid workers) to the forefront so the firm focuses on those manufactured concerns instead of crafting an equitable solution for everyone.

To me and many others, HBAs’ silence, fake concerns, and hostility to change the real problem are as much to blame for the firm’s stance as the c-suite.

If they truly cared, HBAs would push for a policy that is equal for all workers even if that means hybrid are paid more to offset commuting costs or barring that embrace accountability metrics like the badge swiping and other surveillance hybrid associates have to endure. I’ve seen none of that.

Anyone have info on what RTO will look like aside from it being implemented next year and which divisions will be at which location?

Last I heard. There was going to be another large RTO Wave in October.

Anyone heard of possible force scheduled days in office?
I was on my weekly manager call this morning and the topic came up of division heads possibly setting forced days in office so that everyone is able to “freely collaborate” without needing to worry about trying to coordinate days in the office together.

In a nutshell the message today was "if you don't like the idea of RTO, then leave". If you want to be promoted and you don't live in a main hub location "too bad". In other words you are just a damn number. Tone deaf leadership to think that people want to move just to move. They should all be fired! They have done zero for this company and simply waste money. Many of us have been to this rodeo show before.

Notice went out that all central arkansas workers will have to spend at least one day a week in the office soon. The wording of the communication sounded like it will increase once they test the water.

https://www.fastcompany.com/91376683/fords-reimagining-offices-starting-with-a-historic-engineering-lab

This article should ask how much the employees love RTO! Papering over cracks. You can't polish a tu-d.

when do we expect return to office mandate to expand? some mentioned after labor day, but that seems too soon.

https://www.hrgrapevine.com/us/content/article/2024-07-26-execs-hr-admit-rto-mandates-are-meant-to-make-staff-quit#:~:text=A%20leading%20motive%20behind%20many,before%20their%20in%2Doffice%20counterparts.

RTO next week. Here we go!

Is the orlando office on 12150 research pkwy going to be a hub?

VBG specifically has been hosting VP/AVP level all hands calls where the leader will say “we expect you to be in full days. Talk to your manager if you need an exception”, yet Sam’s video and the VLC letter say “3 days with flexibility”, no mention of what flexibility’s definition is. Can this be enforced if it’s not in writing?

I am just going to leave this here:

Verizon

• Requirement: 3 days per week for hybrid management and corporate staff
• Effective date: Day after Labor Day 2025
• Reported date: Jul 29, 2025

Rogers Communications

• Requirement: Phase 1 4 days, then 5 days for corporate staff
• Effective date: Oct 1, 2025 then Feb 1, 2026
• Reported date: Jul 28, 2025

Tata Consultancy Services

• Requirement: 5 days per week in office for US employees, immediate
• Effective date: Immediate
• Reported date: Jul 23, 2025

TD Bank

• Requirement: 4 days per week
• Effective date: Execs Oct 6, 2025, others Nov 3, 2025
• Reported date: Jul 23, 2025

Sherwin-Williams

• Requirement: 5 days per week in US and Canada
• Effective date: Jan 1, 2026
• Reported date: Jul 17, 2025

Starbucks

• Requirement: 4 days per week for corporate employees
• Effective date: Sep 29, 2025
• Reported date: Jul 14, 2025

Target

• Requirement: 3 days per week for most HQ roles
• Effective date: Sep 2, 2025
• Reported date: Jul 11, 2025

3M

• Requirement: 4 days per week for most US non production staff
• Effective date: Sep 2, 2025
• Reported date: Jul 9, 2025

HSBC

• Requirement: Managing directors 4 days per week
• Effective date: Oct 2025
• Reported date: Jun 29, 2025

BMO

• Requirement: 4 days per week
• Effective date: Sep 15, 2025
• Reported date: Jun 26, 2025

Ford

• Requirement: 4 days per week for most global salaried staff
• Effective date: Sep 1, 2025
• Reported date: Jun 25, 2025

ING

• Requirement: At least 2 days per week, one of Mon or Wed or Fri
• Effective date: Active as of Jun 2025
• Reported date: Jun 25, 2025

UnitedHealth Group

• Requirement: 4 days per week for hybrid staff in MN and DC
• Effective date: Jul 7, 2025
• Reported date: Jun 25, 2025

Amazon

• Requirement: Relocate to hubs or exit, tied to stricter in office push
• Effective date: Rolling from Jun 2025
• Reported date: Jun 18 to Jun 20, 2025

RBC

• Requirement: 4 days per week
• Effective date: Sep 2025
• Reported date: May 29, 2025

BlackRock

• Requirement: Managing directors full time in office
• Effective date: 2025 rollout
• Reported date: May 8, 2025

BNY Mellon

• Requirement: 4 days per week for most employees
• Effective date: Sep 2, 2025
• Reported date: May 1, 2025

Uber

• Requirement: 3 days per week for all employees
• Effective date: Jun 1, 2025
• Reported date: Apr 29, 2025

Thermo Fisher Scientific

• Requirement: 4 days per week company wide
• Effective date: 2025
• Reported date: Apr 30, 2025

Honda USA

• Requirement: At least 80 percent in office
• Effective date: Oct 6, 2025
• Reported date: Apr 25, 2025

IBM

• Requirement: US sales and US cloud teams at client site, flagship office or hub at least 3 days per week
• Effective date: 2025
• Reported date: Apr 2025

Intel

• Requirement: 4 days per week in office
• Effective date: Sep 2025
• Reported date: Apr 24 to Apr 25, 2025

Google

• Requirement: Hybrid 3 days per week enforced, team level strictness or exit
• Effective date: 2025 update to 2022 policy
• Reported date: Apr 23 to Apr 24, 2025

Caterpillar

• Requirement: 5 days per week for US office staff
• Effective date: Jun 2, 2025
• Reported date: Apr 10, 2025

Qualcomm

• Requirement: 5 days per week for corporate employees
• Effective date: 2025 after Feb internal meeting
• Reported date: Feb 20, 2025

Gap Inc.

• Requirement: 5 days per week for corporate staff near offices
• Effective date: Sep 1, 2025
• Reported date: Feb 9, 2025

Dell Technologies

• Requirement: 5 days per week for employees within about 1 hour of an office
• Effective date: Mar 3, 2025
• Reported date: Jan 31, 2025

Home Depot

• Requirement: 5 days per week for employees within 50 miles of Atlanta HQ
• Effective date: Jun 2, 2025
• Reported date: Jan 10, 2025

Rogers Communications announced a new return-to-office (RTO) policy that will ultimately require all corporate employees to be in the office five days a week. The policy was issued on July 28, 2025 and will be phased in: starting October 1, 2025, employees must work four days per week in the office, and from February 1, 2026, the requirement rises to five days per week. Rogers, which employs about 24,000 people, said the phased rollout is meant to give workers and families time to adjust.

The update comes just two months after layoffs in May 2025, when the company cut roughly 2 percent of its workforce (around 2,000 jobs). While not officially tied, many recent RTO mandates across industries have been announced near the time of workforce reductions.

Compared to Canadian peers, Rogers’ new policy is among the strictest. RBC, Scotiabank, BMO, and TD Bank will require four days per week in-office later in 2025, while many other employers still follow three-day or hybrid models. Only a few large companies, such as CIBC and Brookfield Corporation, currently enforce five-day office mandates.

Source:

• https://buildremote.co/return-to-office/rogers/

Here are some companies that go through RTO right now. Almost all of htem have RTO thereads here on layoffs.com:

Microsoft, Amazon, UnitedHealth Group, JPMorgan Chase, Thermo Fisher Scientific, Humana, Accenture, International Business Machines, Charles Schwab, CDW, Medtronic, PepsiCo, Best Buy, CVS Health, State Street, Target, American Electric Power, Dell, Emerson Electric, Cisco Systems, Intel, Abbott Laboratories, Anthem, American International Group (AIG), Bank of New York Mellon, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, U.S. Bancorp, Truist, Verizon Communications, Starbucks, Nike, Fiserv, Fidelity National Information Services (FIS), TransUnion, Illumina, AMN Healthcare Services, Cenovus Energy, SeaWorld Entertainment, Zoom Communications

this whole bs thing started in what, early March or so? I went in MAYBE 3 days/week but averaged out more like 1-2/week lol. I was told by my manager that I should probably start going in more to stay off a "list," so i did. I'd go swipe my badge and drive the hour commute back home.

Then the whole manager reorg happened and my new "manager" is pi---d about the RTO as well. He basically told me - without saying it - that if i want to just badge in and go straight back home, then i can.

I live an hour from the office and got tired of the drive. I put in for a medical exception for something and was granted 6 months. So, I haven't been to the office since I think early April now?

Are they still monitoring this cr-p? Because in my last 1x1 he didn't say a thing about it.

Careful with how much time you are spending in the office.. They are watching and firing people who arent in the office "enough time". Keep in mind there is NO policy which outlines time in office but they will still fire you!

this was an article "The traditional 9-to-5 is being replaced by the ‘infinite workday’". For those of you at WF, do you find that the company wants you to RTO and to work off hours from home.

And it’s only going to get worse. Anything management can do to make it more miserable, more difficult to comply with, more absurd or outright humiliating, they’ll do it. Because no matter what they’ve claimed, the real goal of RTO has always been the same - to make you quit. Pure, distilled attrition.

Continue to keep your eyes open and resume's ready as SF is a pile of sh-t just like the rest of corporate America. Corporations like SF are slowly and methodically sealing/draining our nation and our way of life's doomed faith.

Return to work mandates to run people off
Cutting benefits and pay, with added unlimited responsibility, you fill all roles!
Reassignments to shi-t departments or jobs, constant bullying
Accountability Cycles and bogus performance improvement plans
Understaffing to reduce expenses and inflate executive bonuses
Horrible training with path to proficiencies that set you up to fail
Woke and DEI- another way to say you are helping under represented groups but actually methodically abusing them and setting them up to fail. Labor abuse is the oldest form of systemic racism in America.
Age Discrimination
New Executive philosophy- you owe us 100% loyal and total sacrifice and we owe you absolutely nothing and will discard you at our convenience.
Constant surveys to target trouble makers and fake talent reviews to decide who is next.
Constant gaslighting, controlling the narrative, Exec propaganda, and constant sleight of hand and lies.
Remember never trust one single thing they tell you, sabotage SF at every turn and tell anyone and everyone you know what kind of trash they people are!

I'm a manager in Manchester and I have just been told today that despite what the in office scorecard for flex employees is telling my team, they must start doing 4 days a week from 1st September (despite one week to go of the 4 week period). Seems pedantic and fussy to me.

Anyone else been told this? Not sure how will enforced.

Hey you guys, I received a call today that I will have to start working from the office again “soon” and I work in Risk. Has anyone else received such notice recently?

We all know this is the hot button issue right now. Management has created a downright demoralizing environment by their refusal to get with the times and allow more remote work. We’re now being told that (against HR policy) we need to be in 11 days a month no matter what. You were sick? Make up the day. On two weeks of vacation time? Make up the two weeks and add a day to the month. That means that even if you’ve gathered weeks of PTO and you want to go on a vacation and use 10 days of PTO you simply can’t because there are 20 working days in a month. I worked at another dinosaur bank just before coming here not long ago and even their RTO policy was less aggressive. I’m not sure why the obsession on being in office - are they just forcing attrition? Why continue to hire new talent if that’s the case as it is in my organization? Guess I need to dust off my resume again. This is getting ridiculous.

I was just asked, well, told to come in to the office 3 days per week. This is ridiculous as I've been working remotely for years and years. Is anyone else dealing with this too?

Looking forward to see how everyone starts driving to office 4 days a week in traffic and complain about missing little Tommys dance classes. LBT will probably start badge tracking for hours spent as well. I am fully remote so I will continue to WFH

There is not much clarity about agency workers if they are supposed to be RTO or no

For the mandatory 3 days in, people have been working 4 hours in the office and then going home to finish their day. Is this accurate. I don’t see anything that states it’s acceptable per WF.

Anyone else being told they need to make up vacation or sick days to meet the 3 days in office mandate? This is opposite of what the guidelines stated when rolling out the HUB.