Is it just me? Or are people in different parts of the company feeling this weird feeling of disconnection? Feels like people don't communicate anymore. Even the executives don't. Like they've given up. People seem to be going through the motions... — read more
Any department / team that is thriving?
Do you know if there is any department or a team that is still thriving at SAS?
Whatever happened to "Big Data" ?
I don't hear much about "Big Data" anymore. Was it a fad? Did brute force processing of big data prove unnecessary? Did business choose and anoint a particular vendor's product or has brute force been replaced by AI? Viya was originally about... — read more
Early retiree/layoffee health insurance
Anyone who retired early or was layed off prior to Medicare have insights into Cobra vs ACA? Interested in the cost vs policy quality comparisons for those who have been through it. I know based on W2 box 12DD that the SAS insurance comes out to... — read more
What do you miss from the “old SAS”?
I’’ll start: Yearly pay raises close to or exceeding inflation Accepting salary based on 35hr/wk, flash forward, management expectation of 40-50, no adjustment Pressure to ignore benefits paid by lower salary like RFC for “azz in chair” time
SAS not in Forbes Top Companies for Tech Workers
Sad. There was a day when it would have never missed such a ranking over companies like Lowes, Bank of America, and Duke Energy.
SAS prefers to hire from NC State which is ranked 66th. Maybe time to cast a wider net.
North Carolina schools in Forbes ‘America’s Top Colleges’ rankings ( for 2026): Duke University – No. 22 UNC-Chapel Hill – No. 35 Davidson College – No. 59 NC State University – No. 66 Wake Forest University – No. 98 Elon University – No... — read more
SAS and Agentic AI
Quick question for those still at SAS...I keep seeing posts on LinkedIn where SAS is doing webinars, presentations, etc. on Agentic AI. I'm genuinely curious, has SAS actually built Agentic AI capabilities into Viya, or are they just talking about... — read more
New Coke, Bud Light, Cr--ker Barrel, and Viya
The latest dust up in the news cycle about the rebranding by Cr--ker Barrel got me thinking. There are obvious similarities with the companies and products listed in the thread title. All made poor marketing decisions that alienated their core... — read more
Retirement Packages for those under 60?
Will SAS ever do a package for those under 60? Seems crazy that one could work here 35 years or more and get $100 per year to leave when someone who worked here for 10 years can get 6 figures to walk away! Doesn’t make much sense to me! Why not do... — read more
Mediocrity is an inevitable result for all long-lived companies
Many comments here indicate that, if the company had just hired the best and the brightest A-players by offering sufficient compensation, the company would be more successful today. For any company of size, though, a normal distribution of abilities... — read more
SAS hires H1Bs. H1B is America's secret we-pon. Agreed or Disagreed?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VNXwRZebJx0
Strategists!
Like measles the strategists are back. This time the infection is in RND at the VP level. They make real employees spend days in worthless solution strategy meetings. Their lackies present vision powerpoints while they go play golf with other... — read more
A Short History of AutoML
Some of you may be familiar with Thomas Dinsmore -- he writes about Analytics. SAS is frequently mentioned. His latest series, "A Short History of AutoML", is posted on his Substack page. Its an interesting walk down memory; it should generate an... — read more
What is a realistic happy ending for SAS?
"What is a realistic happy ending for SAS?" -- @1sa+1jzq0haak
Globalization department
What’s happening there? Long time employees are suddenly out sick for extended periods of time due to stress and horrible leadership. Not just one, several.Any insights?
New CFO
https://www.sas.com/en_us/news/press-releases/2025/july/matt-parson-sas-chief-financial-officer.html
What Might Have Been
Nice N&O article. May 19th; I had missed it. https://www.newsobserver.com/news/business/article306489106.html What Goodnight’s decision to keep SAS private has meant for its workers and Cary By Brian Gordon Updated May 19, 2025 8:25 AM I’m... — read more
Health insurance trap
After my diagnosis last year, I realized I'm basically institutionalized by our benefits package. The premiums are reasonable and they actually cover my treatments, which is more than I can say for most friends' plans. It's depressing knowing I'll... — read more
Dead as a doornail here lately
Kind of like sales numbers and employee engagement overall. But don't worry folks, Aventure is coming to the rescue. To help with internal transfers and career planning and such.
SAS IPO 2027 - CIO magazine
https://www.cio.com/article/3988330/sas-enters-new-ai-era-with-ipo-on-the-horizon.html Company had to consolidate 14 financial systems, which took several years; that new system went live in January 2025. SAS also had to build other systems... — read more
SAS could have been like Informatica and been bought for $8 billion
So if you hadn't noticed, Salesforce just acquired Informatica for $8 billion. I remember when SAS used to compete with Informatica in the data management and MDM space. Remember EDI Server? Dataflux? They were good products but were left to wither... — read more
V9 revenue
Annual total revenue for SAS is over $3B. What percentage of that is from V9?
Are layoffs over?
Now that we are almost entering the second half of the year, do we think there are more layoffs to come? Only heard of layoffs in Sales and R&D that happened over the past few months. Do we think more will come in other divisions? Has anyone heard... — read more
How much of this was actually SAS?
Here's a recent LinkedIn post by Bryan Harris talking about Innovate 2025... "We showcased production-ready Intelligent Agents, which are already driving billions of dollars of decisions for some of the largest companies in the world. Our... — read more
Did we lose a decade chasing distributed architectures for data analytics?
So, yes, we really did lose a full decade. https://duckdb.org/2025/05/19/the-lost-decade-of-small-data.html
The Problem was the Culture
@15t+1jv97k35t has described my experience exactly. In the past 20 years, the amount of data in the world grew by a factor of 1,000. During that time, our company shrank. I’ll always believe we had the talent to grab a piece of that market... — read more
How are customers reacting to impending sale/IPO
What strategies aew customers adopting concerning their future with SAS with regard to the future sale/IPO Wait and see until after sale/IPO? Phase out usage SAS usage asap? Continue SAS usage with no plans to change? Other strategies?
The Rise of Product Management
I thought this comment was worth wider readership. I had argued that Engineers should interact with customers to understand their problems. As a Software Engineer, I learned to do that. @kk+1jv1zhjr8 argued that interacting with customers is the... — read more
Impressions of SAS Innovate 2025
Interested to hear if anyone who's still at SAS or attended Innovate, has any thoughts or comments on the event. Any sense that SAS may be reinventing itself, or did it just confirm the general consensus around here that the ship is sinking and... — read more
SAS Hesitate 2025
Everything new will be available maybe later this year unless the company is sold or management changes its mind. The story about the engineer who had a great idea 2 years ago and could not get any support until he confronted management and then... — read more
What is AI modeling?
What is ready-made AI models? Merging two ID-less tables with the help of AI, which is just an AI-powered solution. Like Apple and Microsoft, enhancing user experience with AI. Sounds like the pivot already happened from "read-made AI models" to... — read more
Why are more SAS jobs or other American jobs disappearing?
Why Are American Jobs Disappearing? (Spoiler: It's Not China) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrJzdZxE9Yk Agree or disagree?
Finger in the eye of hosting
Donald Trump wants to oust three members of a national privacy watchdog that is a key part of Europeans’ privacy protections in the United States — spelling trouble for thousands of U.S. companies moving personal data out of... — read more
SAS has a new COO
https://www.wral.com/business/sas-promotes-gavin-day-coo-may-2025/
It's raise and promotion week, but not for you
Not for you if you are GenX, not for you if you've worked here for years, carrying both older employees who are retired in place and younger employees who were never trained and never held accountable for knowing how to do their jobs. Not for you... — read more
What's the news on buyout exits?
Did more people take it than you expected, or less? I'm surprised by how many are cutting and running. I don't blame them for doing it but it feels like too little too late. Some people who have been entrenched in leadership roles here are exiting... — read more
SAS Cyber Security... Does SAS have such a product? If not, why not.
I know we have SAS Fraud but it's more financial/banking /credit card fraud. Wonder why we don't have a full-fledged SAS Cybersecurity product. And why isn't the US taking cyber security more... — read more
2024 Annual Report
SAS's 2024 Annual Report has been published, here: https://www.sas.com/en_us/company-information/annual-report.html "SAS continues to record more than $3 billion in annual sales... We recorded 24% growth in SAS Viya sales."