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Living the well life

Corporate Communications sent an email to our location today asking for us to send in submissions about how we’re living the WELL life at Wells Fargo.

Really? You ask this now?

Even if you think those of us upset about the 8 hour thing are being whiny, you have to admit that sending out something asking us for a testimonial about the great Wells Fargo RIGHT NOW is pretty laughable.


Canada’s future is not for sale. Write to your representatives. Speak out. Stand up. Fight back against betrayal. Silence is surrender.

Betrayal at Home Imperial Oil Offshores Canadian Jobs After Exploiting Resources
After decades of degrading Canada’s environment, draining communities, and profiting from our natural resources, Imperial Oil,under the control of its U.S. parent giant, is shipping 20% jobs to India


US oil giant offshores 900 well paying Canadian Jobs

Should be the title of the press release.

Most of the analysis and decisions were led by ExxonMobil employees in Houston and elsewhere in the world. Imperial despite being an independent publicly traded company was puppeteered by its American masters.

This should be headline news everywhere in Canada tonight. But instead, given it doesn’t affect Ontario or Quebec it will be swept under the rug.

What happened to elbows up?


Ex IOL - We're with you

Amidst todays news, just wanted to pass this along. All of us former employees are with you in spirit. There's so much information and news to digest and a massive human element to all this. Just remember, Imperial hires fantastic people, regardless of what specific outcomes are, we all hope things work out for everyone individually. Take care


MN Email

MN is such a great guy who cares so much about us all! His genuine concern for us all is absolutely heartwarming. I just want to say to MN that we all care for him as much as he cares for us and we want to send the same message to him that he send to us every day:

🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕


What We Deserve

It's become so clear from this forum that we all hate each other and cannot agree to collectively take action on anything.

This place has become so miserable over the last few years I'm actively rooting for Juan to announce the end of remote at this point so we all suffer.


They can forget about productivity today

I know I'm not the only one who can't even think about work right now. The sooner this is over, the better, even if I'm cut. The anticipation is ki-ling me, literally. I'm scared to take my blood pressure again because of how high it is. Anyone who can concentrate on work in these conditions has my respect, but that isn't me.


What now?

Well after 13.5 years of loyal service including 2 moves halfway across the United States I was unlucky this time and got left standing. I remember when I got hired I was told during on boarding that I had essentially won the lottery and that I can work 30 years and retire a millionaire. Well I've been through 4 re-orgs across 3 business units. But hey I still have a chance to land a lesser paying role during the quick PDC. I've devoted almost 25 years of my life to the oil industry and now I'm left scratching my head wondering what I'm going to do. Do I switch industries and hope that I can find a comparable paying job or do I uproot my family once again chasing the dream to remain in the industry that has blessed me beyond my wildest dreams? I have years of knowledge but can't hang a college diploma up in my office. It's sad because I feel that the company that I dreamed of working for not value on the job knowledge the way they value a college diploma. I feel like this company is turning in to a popularity contest and upper management not wanting to be challenged with new ideas or ways of doing things they seem to want yes men/women.


Poor leadership

At Dell Technologies, we lack good leadership. Instead of transparency, we see random layoffs, no coherent strategy, and no confidence instilled in employees or shareholders. Leadership is not about hiding behind tough decisions.. it’s about owning them, communicating them, and guiding people through them.

The difference between courage and cowardice is clarity.


Distrust

Its clear to see with how easy people are jumping to conclusions just how broken this company is. Constantly having to wonder will you be next. Dreading announcements, dreading town halls - its a slow, exhausting and emotional mental game. This company has lost the ability all together to value employees, make them feel appreciated for their contributions. There is no trust. Understand a corporation doesnt owe anyone loyalty but a hint of transparency would be nice. Instead of a message that promotes a long, fulfilling career that will provide you growth opportunity and purpose. As if the fact that the constant eroding of personnel doesnt impact us left both professionally and personally. We shoulder more work while inherting more risk our time will soon be up.

I'd say "hopefully HR is taking note"; except HR doesnt give a s#it about Canadian workers or Imperial Oil.

Sad what this company has become.


Optum is losing talent at accelerated rate

Critical resources with 10 to 25 years with the company have either left, found new jobs, or they're already interviewing. They keep hamstringing our engineers/innovators with increasing loads of security requirements and bridling everyone with additional jobs. Engineering teams have lost critical mass and it's all arranging deck chairs on the Titanic now. No one to blame but leadership.
OP: @d5+1k617znv0

This seems to have been the corporate trend in the US for a couple of years now. I don’t even know where to take the skills and experience I’ve built. Something is deeply wrong with a system that abandons human achievement, expertise, and accumulated knowledge so casually.


@OP+1k65v2bkx: Your frustration with the 8-hour RTO mandate is spot-on—expecting 4am office arrivals for India calls is absurd and screams mismanagement. The badge-tracking data, as you said, is a legal landmine; law firms could feast on it for discrimination suits (e.g., targeting women or over-40s, per @av
). Morale’s in the gutter—Glassdoor’s 3.7/5 culture score and 2025 Worker Stress Survey confirm it. @bm ’s right: this isn’t about coffee badging but execs chasing stock prices while alienating talent. Wells Fargo’s solid on paper (A+ Fitch rating, 5-star BauerFinancial, >10% CET1 ratio), but its toxic culture—echoing Tolstedt/Stumpf days—drives churn.
To show regulators and outsiders how bad it is: Log RTO impacts anonymously (e.g., Google Forms) and tip CFPB (consumerfinance.gov/complaint).
Flood Wells’ engagement surveys with blunt feedback—leak results to media.
Post on X (#WellsFargoRTO) or Glassdoor to amplify.

Collective action is key—solo moves risk retaliation. @aa+1k66fwnj9, keep planning that exit; this bank’s stable but broken. #RTO #Morale #Banking

@OP
+1k66fwnj9: Your point about employees “checking out” and doing the bare minimum under Wells Fargo’s RTO policy rings true, and it’s a symptom of deeper issues. I wouldn’t call severance a “golden parachute” either—those are reserved for executives, not the rank-and-file waiting out retirement. The churn you mention, especially among younger talent, aligns with what I’ve seen: Wells Fargo attracts good people with competitive pay and benefits but loses them fast due to a toxic, command-and-control culture. @aa+1k66fwnj9, you’re wrong. The bank’s reputation is not universally “evil” --especially outside these walls—millions spent on PR post-account scandal helped. But let’s look at the numbers to see where Wells stands. Using the following prompt to evaluate Wells Fargo’s performance:
"Provide a detailed evaluation of Wells Fargo’s performance as a bank, focusing on its financial health, regulatory ratings, credit ratings, and customer satisfaction. Include regulatory assessments (e.g., CAMELS, stress tests, asset caps), credit ratings (Moody’s, S&P, Fitch), insights from research/surveys (e.g., ABA, BauerFinancial), ‘too big to fail’ status, and key financial metrics (e.g., ROA, capital ratios, revenue growth). Use recent data and cite sources like FDIC or Federal Reserve where applicable. "Here’s the reality: Wells Fargo is financially solid but struggling with trust and morale. It’s a G-SIB (“too big to fail”), with ~$1.9T in assets and a 2.5% capital surcharge, passing 2025 Fed stress tests (CET1 ratio >10%). Credit ratings are strong: Fitch (A+, stable), Moody’s (A1, stable), S&P (A-, stable), reflecting resilience despite litigation risks. BauerFinancial gives it 5 stars for safety, and ABA surveys show 94% customer satisfaction with service. But dig deeper—consumer reviews (e.g., WalletHub) average 2-3/5, citing fees and poor service. Accenture ranks Wells mid-tier for digital experience, and employees on boards like this echo psychological strain from rigid management. This bank’s size and stability draw talent, but its culture—evident in RTO pushback and your “checked out” colleagues—drives them away. @aa+1k66fwnj9, you could retire and thrive elsewhere, like I did, building a business with less stress. Management’s policies, from RTO to past scandals, keep morale low and risk another PR hit. Charlie’s leadership may not land him in jail, but 200,000 frustrated employees venting online isn’t helping. My advice: set boundaries, plan your exit, and don’t bank on a “parachute” from a bank that’s stable but stuck. #RTO #Morale #Banking

RTO policy isn’t going to make people quit

Most of the people in my building are 50+, many 55+ and 5-10 years from retirement who have long checked out and are just waiting it out for either retirement or to get their golden parachute. RTO is only making people more checked out and they are just doing the bare minimum and playing the game while cashing their paycheck which I see no problem with. The only people I see who might leave are a few younger ones who might be able to find remote work but those are definitely the minority. Another failed policy from WF and management is always wondering why this company doesn’t attract talent and morale is low….


It’s sad what a place like Oracle does to you as a person.

It’s 535am where I am. I woke up in a good mood and a friend asked me about a work get together that is happening in Feb. I’m somewhat newer at the company. The gathering would require staying with co-workers in a winter cabin for 2-3 days. Having been burned, mistreated, abused, dumped on and sabotaged for so many years at Oracle, social situations for lengthy time, esp if alcohol is involved, it gives me anxiety. All of this comes from so many years at oracle around people I couldn’t trust or people who were just flat out terrible people to work with. Liars, frauds, fake. Do we have these at every company? Probably…..but man….it’s sad what a place like Oracle does to people for the rest of their lives. I realize more and more as I get older that it was the worst experience of my life and one I regret every day. I am so thankful I will never ever have to go back.


Ideas box

It's the height of ignorance not to acknowledge an employees idea.basic manners cost nothing.all that money spent on your education but no upbringing.just one of many examples why morale is so low.


What the he-l just happened

Anyone else reflecting on this week wondering what the he-l just happened? A typical week became a week of doom and gloom. It became hard to focus, the rumor mill roaring along with a sorry excuse of response by our CEO. In all my years at HCSC, I’ve never felt more betrayed by the company. No clear vision.. no clear communication… where’s the email that says what happens next? Are we really just going to feel like we’re in limbo until someone explains what the plan forward is? This is exhausting… I’m starting to think a layoff wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world


The Lie

Is anyone else exhausted by this charade?
How long does management think we’ll swallow the spin?
How long can they hide behind slogans, “initiatives,” and empty town halls before admitting what everyone already knows?

There is no grand plan.
There never was.

The lie runs through the veins of this place — not a glitch, but the system itself.
The lie is we-ponized: a tool to keep people quiet, compliant, expendable.
The lie isn’t covering cracks anymore — it is the foundation, and it’s already rotting through.

What we’re left with is a company lurching from crisis to crisis, too disorganized to lead, too arrogant to listen, and too malicious to care about the people keeping the lights on.

And the worst part?
They think we’ll keep buying it.


No Confidence Vote

Wanted to bring up something that has been bothering me for quite some time, and I believe it's important for us to have some meaningful discussion about it with those charged with the responsibility. Have you noticed that none of the senior leadership team ever formally addresses any of the serious concerns raised on this forum, Peakon surveys, or other feedback channels? Significant, non-trivial concerns such as offshoring plans, aggressive US layoff plans, loss of experienced workers, hiring freezes, shifting workload concerns, RTO policies, office closure plans, growth hubs vs. non-growth hubs, separations vs. severance plans and decisions, work-from-home status, and quality of life concerns are all left unanswered.

All the management rhetoric we've been programmed to embody in our core pillars and principles now feels empty and hollow. It feels quite odd and frankly, very disheartening, that these significant issues are continuously brought up by employees either directly or through forums like this but never receive any formal acknowledgment or response from senior leadership. Why is that? How is it ever acceptable to continue to ignore these employee concerns? Where does SH and the People Team stand?

It stands to reason that it is crucial for this leadership team to be transparent and responsive to the concerns of their employees. Addressing these issues head-on would not only provide clarity but also help in building trust and improving the overall morale within the organization. Given the widespread fear, uncertainty, and doubt that continues to spread, is there any reason we should be confident in our future success or direction with this firm? If we can't answer this question with absolute certainty and conviction, then clearly a restart is the only option.


We’ll jump out of our skins by December

I’m definitely not in the state of mind, or the life circumstances, to spend weeks worrying nonstop about my job. I’d rather just find out now and be done with it. I need this job badly, since finding something else is near impossible these days. But I also need my sanity and my health. Shouldn’t leadership at least be able to make the process faster and more efficient?


Let's not forget

I'm sad about the layoffs. I was laid off from my last role. It was very painful. Very painful. And I had a lot of anger and felt betrayed.,

I've seen vicious criticisms towards Maurice, Manika, Shannon, John and Kelley. Let's back off the mean comments directed to them. Personally, I think it is misplaced and not warranted. I remember COVID and how we all in HR thought we would be laid off. Yet those same leaders came together and not only saved our jobs. We also got financial help. They let us WFH for 18 months. I for one am very grateful to them.

Layoffs are horrible but they are something that even MCOs aren't immune to. HCSC is not a perfect company but I think it's the best of the industry. I would work no where else. I have worked for other MCOs and I can say that we are treated better and our benefits are better than my experiences. These layoffs do not make HCSC a bad company.

Once again, I'm very sorry for those laid off and pray that you land
back on your feet quickly. I have said a prayer for the people impacted by this. I miss my laid off coworkers.


We’re definitely off the hook today?

Thank god. I feel for everyone who was affected, and I truly hope things work out for each of them. As for the rest of us, we desperately need a breather. Yesterday was brutal, and it takes days to even begin regaining a semblance of normalcy after that much anxiety and worry.


Anyone down for a walkout? Town halls, Blue Pulse?

Hear me out… as I’m finishing my required mylearnings for showing empathy (let’s all laugh…) I got mad. This was terrible. People are calling it HCSC HUNGER GAMES WEEK. I’m sick to even be here still. How this was done was appalling. “It’s business”. Ok? And we’re people being treated like garbage and tossed aside overnight. I’m done. Next town hall, I’m registering and walking out. Next blue pulse survey? All 0’s with no comments. They want compliance, fine but it’s malicious compliance while I look for a new job.

So much for transparency, open communication and this great company vision. Apparently it’s only for the executives who make millions who don’t do a dang thing for us.