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Why does this have it's own thread and #Gold?

Why the link to the other company forms?

Why does the post mention the guy not liking his job and still being there?

Why bring up illegal immigration when there are no such issues at companies like Seagate?

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! STOP POSTING FAKE MADE UP TRASH who knows Upper management might be watching !!!!!!!!!!!

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What about those who must do the laying off?

I've had to lay off and transfer staff last year and this year. Business is slow, profit-wise. I got to choose how many and who but my recommendations were scrutinized all the way to the top of the operating company. Nobody takes this lightly and it is difficult work. It is hard not to feel bad about the whole situation, but it is a business and we are expected to manage it well.

We all feel that way. Thanks for sharing, OP. True #GOLD post.

Should I stay, or should I go

Had my first interview today. Sort of sad. They asked me why I left a long term job, said I haven't, yet, looking for replacement first.

I hated every second. I don't have that many years til retirement, older you are the more difficult to change.

I am just fearing my job will soon be gone, maybe not today, Bit soon. I can't make less, I can't afford to.

But, I love my job. I love my campus. I love my Co workers. Follett s---s putting us in this position.

@mom, thank you for this great words. True #GOLD post

Like I said, today is the day. Good luck everyone!

If you get hit, stay strong and keep it classy. Walk out with your head held high. You have skills - you will be okay. Leave on a good note and ask your manager if you can use them as a reference.

Regardless of what we have to put up with from upper management, it has been an honor and a privilege to work with many of you. Take care NetApp brothers and sisters.

Thanks, @ffh. This is a true #GOLD post.

I was in your shoes two years ago. Don't spend a second of effort trying to get another position in those 60 days (it simply won't happen).

Mistakes I made:

1- Looking for a job in the same Industry (Dell, Cisco, etc.), and with the same salary.

2- Sending a zillion of applications through the web.

3- Full time, permanent job - or nothing.

4- Not willing to relocate to avoid further hassles to my family.

5- Cash is king. Don't burn it. Start acting right now like if you have $0 in your Bank account. Regardless of how much you receive, or how much money you have saved, it might not be enough in case of an emergency (i.e. health related), or in case your job search extends more than you thought.

After 7 months wasted with that mentality, this is what quickly worked:

1- A temp gig (only two months, but a big morale boost) - Short term independent contract as a Consultant.

2- I worked with a few selected group of headhunters and job agencies (over the phone and in person).

3- I relocated with my family (company paid) to another State with a similar job, but in a totally different Industry.

4- I started earning less, but after my first review got an increase that put me a bit above what I was earning.

5- save, save, save, save money. You never know when this might happen again, or you need to deal with a family emergency.

I know first hand change is very tough - for you and your family, but when all of this pass, you'll realize that you'll be much, much better outside of HPE (and smiliar Companies). Good luck, bro!

@1slk and OP, thanks for sharing. Good to know there is a life after HON. This is a true #GOLD post

Congratulations! I am so happy for you! This is an ending yet also a new, wonderful beginning for you. I am wishing you all the best!

I spent 2 years at Honeywell as a recent grad engineer, and those were some very soul-s---ing years of my life. I worked mostly 11-12+ hour days and a good handful of allnighters and weekends, with no comp time or overtime pay, of course. As a result, I accumulated a deficit of sleep over those 2 years. As much as I tried to convince myself otherwise, I felt used, underpaid, and unappreciated. There were a few times when I was driving home from work so exhausted that I could barely keep myself from falling asleep behind the wheel (coffee did nothing at this point). Looking back, I could now see that that's no way to live, not for me nor anyone else. I was able to leave Honeywell with another job lined up (shortly after the management officially announced that people needed to work more unpaid OT hours, because our department was supposedly overstaffed, though I had no idea how this was possible as most people were already working a lot of unpaid OT). Even though that new job opportunity was not without its challenges and struggles, I am thankful for it as it seems Honeywell did somehow manage to get worse after I left. On a more positive note, I am grateful for all the great coworkers I met at HW. A few times I've come across former HW employees whom I had never met before, but there was always an instant connection and understanding with one another, because only people who've worked there truly know what it's like (basically, we would end up exchanging HW horror stories). My short time at HW was a life lesson for me as it was for many coworkers I knew there. I am hoping and praying that those who are stressed out and depressed about their job situations will receive all the blessings and healing they need to move on in a brighter direction.

I agree, @1fql wrote a true #GOLD post. So good it deserves a new thread.

The reason we millennials jump ship is because

1) We have seen people being walked off after working for a company for 10, 15 even 20 years. When someone sees such a thing at the beginning of their career, it is difficult for us to trust companies and not look out for ourselves.

2) There are a lot more opportunities now than they were 20 years ago because how connected the world has become. It is easy to get information about new opportunities.

3) Management. One of the biggest reasons is that we were raised by you people in an ideal world. But well, it is not. We do have a problem of wanting things our way but it is just not our problem, the way the management functions is absolutely unbelievable. When you have your 45 year old asking us on how to sum up numbers on a spreadsheet - yes, that makes us question the capabilities of them. When the management won't listen to us and our problems and fails to provide us with the work life that we want - why not the f--- jump ship? Just because you are jealous?

4) What f---ing demeanor is that guy talking about? We have seen many managers b---s---ting around. In fact, many just do that. Take advantage of us. You f---ers are also not saints, so don't expect us to be. You can yourself see the state Intel is in. The CEO taking up huge raises while walking off people working for 20 years in a single day. Is that the demeanor and work ethic and moral behavior you are talking about?

5) The skills argument. May be a only rational argument that there is. We do think highly of ourselves but that is only because the world has set such a low standard for itself lately. Also, if you talk to us, you will know that we are ready to be guided and told that right now it is not possible for us to get promoted. You need to learn more. And than comes the main part - sit with us and make a plan. Tell what is needed. If the guy does what you ask for, promote him. If you wont deliver on the promise - f--- off. We are going off to do something else as the amount of work put in was worth it and we were not valued.

6) Yes, we are entrepreneurial. Thank god for that. We have absolutely learnt that we can not depend on one company for life given the current pace of changes in the world. Also, entrepreneurship creates jobs which is increasingly important. So, yes, we are entrepreneurial and you can keep s---ing up to the higher ups because you don't have a back up planned.

7) The financial crisis. Everything f---ed up. The exposes which have happened has opened up our eyes that we can't trust anyone. The big banks made a mockery of our parents and there was nothing that they could do. The wage growth has been stagnant. Housing conditions are deplorable. You people have f---ed us up in the arse. Stop with your entitlement and get working.

Instead of complaining about us, work with us rather than giving orders and bossing us around. We bring with ourselves a lot of tech savvy skills which are quite a time saver. Use us to bring them to the front. We are not lazy, entitled or anything. All of it is just in your mind. Stop with your entitled attitude. Idiots.

Also, please don't worry about our future, we will adjust and live our life with also taking care of the environment.

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Out the door with class!

As my time with the company wasn't as long as some of you. I show my respects, because in all my professional career this has been the most awful experience I had the misfortune to endure...I joined with the hope of being part of a team where the company recognizes employees for their hard working values and skills at least with a thank you, but that was too much to ask for...

For all of us that left, there will be light at the end of the tunnel...keep believing in yourself and have courage, as you're a valuable gem, so don't give up because around the corner there's an amazing opportunity waiting for you ;)

For those staying, focus on what's important, which is you! so don't let the mental stress or emotional anxiety take over your well-being...

Thanks, OP. This really is a #GOLD post.

Out the door with class!

As my time with enbridge wasn't as long as some of you. I show my respects, because in all my professional career this has been the most awful experience I had the misfortune to endure...I joined with the hope of being part of a team where the company recognizes employees for their hard working values and skills at least with a thank you, but that was too much to ask for...

For all of us that left today, there will be light at the end of the tunnel...keep believing in yourself and have courage, as you're a valuable gem, so don't give up because around the corner there's an amazing opportunity waiting for you ;)

For those staying, focus on what's important, which is you! so don't let the mental stress or emotional anxiety take over your well-being...

OP, #GOLD post indeed.

Keep the Faith….Whatever happens!!

Although I’m still not happy with how things have been dealt with and I’m still frustrated, it is what it is and with these lemons, we can sure make some lemonade.

Today I share a prayer with all of my co-workers, whether you are religious or not. Just know that God knows each of us by name, he’s knows the future and he is still in control, even when it seems otherwise. Whatever happens tomorrow or in a few days/week, keep the faith and keep your chin up, there is life after Enbridge. You are valuable and special and God has a special purpose for your life.

If we are among those laid off, grieve, but do not wallow in the grief for long. Let’s pledge to ourselves to shake off that feeling and embrace the new possibilities that are passing our way. Channel those emotions into acquiring that new hobby, launching out as an entrepreneur or making that career change that we always had on the back burner.

If we are among those that remain, it won’t be a breeze. We will miss our co-workers, people leaders and friends and who knows how much our jobs/responsibilities will change. Let’s use this time to re-evaluate our priorities and career goals. Where do I want to be in 5, 10 or 15 years? Is there a greater purpose or calling on my life that I have shelved all in pursuit of $$$? What changes do I need to make in my life before I am forced to do so?

Remember that in the larger scheme of things – spending quality time with, and having our supportive families and loved ones around us is what really matters. I pray that God will touch and comfort our anxious hearts. In the sea of turmoil may He give us peace. May he abundantly provide for our needs as he has promised - be it emotional, spiritual, financial, mental, social or physical.

Whatever happens…keep the faith. Remember God loves you, you are so special and valuable in his sight, there are so many great plans that he has for your life. Lean on him for all the strength that you need to get through this. Whatever happens….keep the faith!!

-P.S. Frustrated employee that is keeping the faith…whatever happens

#GOLD post and the best so far

This site is avenue to share information about pending layoffs and honest opinions regarding those layoffs. Nothing wrong with that.

It's a challenging time in industry which is perpetuating fear. Fear of job loss is real. You are correct that everyone will survive. This is not the last place to work and certainly not the best. Hope those that lose their jobs find new and better opportunities.

Thanks, @1pld #GOLD post, indeed.

If you think any employee is an asset, you need to take a look at which column in the balance sheet payroll is under. The basic balance sheet equation is Assets-Liabilities=Equity. Here is a hint. Payroll is not under Assets or Equity.

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Sick and tired of Cognizant's #H1B scam

Seriously, the whole game is rigged, they bring in H1Bs, pay them peanuts and let knowledgeable workers go. I wander if it's possible to get Indian citizenship, so I can go on H1B and keep my job. The whole game is rigged, Pepsi knows it, Cognizant designed it and the politicians are supporting it because they are paid off by IBMs, Accentures and Cognizants of the world. Seriously, this is such a scam it's incredible that nobody is paying attention to this. It's not even discussed during the debates. Who will stop this scam and how?

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Is 1 year gap for an experienced HW engineer normal? How Hiring managers see it.

OP - I'm 1nkw, I had a 3 yr gap where I explored another industry and took time off to be with family. It wasn't too hard to return to my previous employer after that. Later, I was part of a RIF before coming to Intel. During that time, I returned to school and did volunteer work. Being out of work is what you make of it. Even if it's just free online courses, make sure you're doing more than just job hunting. Yeah, job hunting can be full time, but that's not necessarily more productive than a targeted search and carving out hours for volunteer efforts and your hobbies. The worst thing that could happen is you become bitter just in time for that important job interview. Stay fresh and have fun. Keep in touch with friends and reach out to folks. Don't become a hermit, it's easy to do. And above all, be kind to yourself.

@beb, #GOLD post, indeed

When it lays off irreplaceable know-how, and hires instead 4 H1B's that can't debug their own code

When kiss-up, kick-down is the standard for promotions

When management fills up their calendar with nonsense stuff to appear "on a meeting" on Skype

When people are getting fired and hired back as contractors

When customers don't want to talk to managers, but insist to get direct contact to engineers

When each failure is sold as a victory

When product are cancelled, then brought back to life,, then cancelled again.

When the manager insists to be on CC when you talk with the guy next door

When your project is cancelled and then you're asked why it's not ready.

When your peers ask you if you have some connections outside to help them jump ships.

When they are paying you to do nothing

When the managers fly around the globe to spread the same 10 BS sentences and collect bonus miles.

When you're afraid to ask what is the direction to follow.

When 10 engineers in a room are not willing to aknowledge any mistake, but nothing works.

When technical decisions are made by managers being afraid to lose control

When great technical people are becoming miserable managers

When all products are obsolete when they reach the market

When said company buys back stock with bond money

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Management needs to be thinned

To my now former supervisor: I'm sure you were completely justified in selecting me for termination. Afterall, you spoke to me once or twice during your tenure in your latest position. I'm sure you evaluated me fairly. And during your time pushing papers around and otherwise tying up your time adding zero value I'm sure you became thoroughly familiar not just with what I do now, but also with the contributions I made long before your arrival on the team (or the company). I'm sure there are great reasons for denying EOI's, yet pushing me out.

You're right, I didn't take credit for others' work, berate my competition, extol my own abilities, or make obvious, superfluous statements in meetings in order to elevate others' perception of me. I had hoped any decent manager was skilled enough to see through that bul$&@@$. I was wrong. Thank you for mentoring me in obe key area: survival. I now know talent means nothing. I'll be sure to play all the vile games. I'll be relentless and ruthless in tearing down others and remembering that knowledge sharing or assisting others is not actually valued, despite the slogans and values the corporation claims are important that week. I'll play the system and pretend that I agree that EVERY-FREAKING-ONE is supposed to aspire to be a "leader." Being a manager is the absolute culmination of self-actualization. If oil stays down long enough, perhaps COP will cut the true fat: absolutely worthless jobs like yours. Go back to where you came from, have a nice life, and "F you too!!!"

OP, true #GOLD post

Most Grateful about for Covington.

There are a few things I am grateful about for my tenure at COV100.

  1. That the Gulf Café never attempted to cook a Gumbo. The Red Beans and Rice, a very difficult dish to mess up, was as Cajun as those guys needed to try.

  2. That the elevators never "let me down" faster than designed (though they often made some pretty scary sounding noises.

  3. That I didn't have to spend a whole lot of time with the new meeting room booking process.

  4. That I never s---er punched anyone there, though especially in meeting I often thought, "what planet is this fool from and how the heck did they manage to hire on with a bona fide oil company?

  5. But most importantly, that I had the opportunity to work with some great people, on some great projects, made some life long friends, learned to tolerate those who were not like me, and suppress some RED Energy. Not tongue in cheek, it was a great ride.

This is a true #GOLD Post

Management needs to be thinned

To my now former supervisor:

I'm sure you were completely justified in selecting me for termination. After all, you spoke to me once or twice during your tenure in your latest position. I'm sure you evaluated me fairly. And during your time pushing papers around and otherwise tying up your time adding zero value I'm sure you became thoroughly familiar not just with what I do now, but also with the contributions I made long before your arrival on the team (or the company).

You're right, I didn't take credit for others' work, berate my competition, extol my own abilities, or make obvious, superfluous statements in meetings in order to elevate others' perception of me. I had hoped any decent manager was skilled enough to see through that BS. I was wrong. Thank you for mentoring me in one key area: survival.

I now know talent means nothing. I'll be sure to play all the vile games. I'll be relentless and ruthless in tearing down others and remembering that knowledge sharing or assisting others is not actually valued, despite the slogans and values the corporation claims are important that week.

I'll play the system and pretend that I agree that EVERY-FREAKING-ONE is supposed to aspire to be a "leader." Being a manager is the absolute culmination of self-actualization. In future, the company will cut the true fat: absolutely worthless jobs like yours. Go back to where you came from, have a nice life, and "@!$% you too!!!"

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What have been your experience with headhunters?

I've had several experiences, most of them negative. Some have treated me like if I was a piece of meat... It had felt like working with mercenaries or traffickers... Most only want to make a quick profit out of you with a quick positioning (companies usually pay them a commission of up to 25% of your first years' salary). I've been lied about job specs, contract terms, etc.

Not all recruiters are what I would call "headhunters"... I got my current job through one that I would consider an exception, as he was the total opposite of what I've just described above. He spent a lot of time working with me to be successful in getting the job (and my salary is not high at all). At the end, we both won, but his style an attitude was extremely different when compared to the other experiences I had.

What about you? Any experiences you would like to share?

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If you go with a recruiter, just remember they are seeking a paycheck (same as you). Lots of them can't afford to spend much time/energy with job hunters, although they will say they want to make sure it's the "right fit" on both sides, they get paid by the client and not by the employee. At the end of day, I see it as an oppty to sharpen your interview skills and perhaps get some job leads. If you happen to find that rare recruiter that is actually helpful, then stay in touch with them as you are looking - every couple of weeks give them a call to check in and see if anything new has turned up. Also, double check everything with the client directly to ensure there is no miscommunication (full time / temporary position, how long is the contract, etc..)

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I've been without a job for months now, and I prefer to stay that way before engaging again in a temp role through a headhunter. It started this way... I posted my resume on the major job seeking sites, and I started getting contacted the very next day. You can imagine the excitement I had. I wasn't going to be without a job for long, I thought! These guys were very aggressive, calling multiple times per day. If you have the skills they need for their customers, it'll felt like spamming, and they won't rest until you sign with them, and they position you.

I got in average 6-7 emails and multiple calls per day usually for the same position(s) from different "recruiting" companies. They were always related to short term contracting roles in remote locations within the States as independent consultants. These headhunters (there was a common Nationality, but I won't go on that topic) will make you sign exclusive representation contracts with them. As you engage as an independent consultant/contractor, you get no benefits (medical, dental, etc.), and once you are done, they don't give a damn about you. They lied to me saying that the consulting contract was for at least 18 months, but in reality it was for only 5 . I relocated using my own funds, and now I am in the middle of Missouri, with no job, and with no savings, living out of welfare and ad hoc construction gigs until I can get out of this mess.

Be very wary of those kind of engagements. Try not to be panicked by not having a job, and/or over-excited of returning to the job force with "opportunities" like these. For these guys, you are like a flea market item. Their only objective is to "sell" you for a profit, and move to the next victim.

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Influence Change Wherever You Are

So sorry to those who have been forced out. It isn't your fault if you didn't challenge the system and were placed on a struggling asset, on dog projects, or under a limiting supervisor. Unfortunately employee productivity is being blamed for the financial struggles, i.e., not successfully executing the plan, rather than dealing with that the plan hasn't been that great. Otherwise we'd see more managers laid off too (not just old guys retiring). Some hard life lessons to learn. Hopefully, whether you are in or out, this mess will motivate us to try and influence change and not just fester bitterness.

A #GOLD post indeed

This company is a perfect business case study of how to transform with no morals attached.

This company is a perfect business case study of how to transform with no morals attached.

Just move HQ to India and be done with it, but the executives live by different rules, so they won't have to move.

Where I have we seen this before in history? I was the only white guy in my group to get laid off and they made those changes to the 401k previously, since they knew it was to their advantage.

Oh well, as you can see, our voting apparatus in this free society doesn't mean a thing with corruption, immoral behavior, and lies happening all around us.

In politics, in the news, and in the working environment.

What happened to the Great USA and iconic companies and ethical working environments of decades past?

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Wrongful Termination

I was recently terminated without notice and without cause, I was supposed to receive payment in lieu of notice but they haven't payed. AskHR and local HR are not responding to emails so I contacted BACO which was quick in creating an HR ticket for me but still no response from them. Since its been over two months now I guess litigation is my next step. Anyone else have experience with this or recommendations on who to contact to avoid litigation? It's clear cut it is wrongful termination without the pay since my letter of employment states there will be notice and the IM manual gives the clause for payment in lieu of notice. However, court fee's and time spend trying to deal with Bermuda law is something I would like to avoid if at all possible.

OP, you nailed it. This is a true #GOLD post.

You Need a Masters Degree in Nepotism OR Masters Degree in Sycophancy to Succeed at Cisco

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Rub your Ruby crystal: Netapp mini survival guide

I am sure, most of you figured that out by now, but this is for the ones who didn't, reason why they're in great danger if they don't act on it right now:

1) forget about how you perform, no matter which department or line of work you're in. That was important looong time ago, but it's irrelevant now. The first priority is to spot the influential group of people which are in charge or can influence the next redundancy list. Join them! Please them! Throw parties at them and praise them no matter how embarrassing it might sound or feel. Remember, we are talking here about your survival in the next round of layoffs!

2) identify the potential victims which could be thrown over the board. That should be a fairly simple task: they're typically the decent, quiet guys, too busy working to understand what's going on around them. They are the ones that never say "no" to any request. Rat them! Because if you don't, you'll be the one flying over the board.

3) Don't be fooled by your boss' friendly attitude: this is usually a simple tactic to make you relax, before he or she applies a deadly hammer hit right to your head. If you are too tense or oppose any resistance he might have to do it again, and again, until the job's done. That can have a negative effect on those left watching. Nobody wants that. So, play the game, but stay alert.

4) Don't ever raise any concerns or provide any negative feedback. Needless to say, it'll promote you right on top of the black list.

5) Before you get too absorbed in your survival activities don't forget your team mates might have read this guide as well, so keep an vulture eye on them!

That being said, I wish you happy surviving with Candor, ...

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Top Ten List

Here's the Top Ten things you should do if you think you might get laid off this round...and if you are sure that you won't be laid off, just keep dreaming.

10...Take home your personal items. Sure they will let you pack them up or they'll do it for you and ship it to your home, but that just adds to the emotions of the day and not in a good way. It's your stuff. Sort through it and leave, take, or toss. Those cough drops that expired two years ago are your business, no else's. What else do you have to do right now, anyway?

9...When your office/desk is clean and clear, do the same with your email, computer files, and company phone. Copy your contacts, email home your pictures and personal emails...you get the idea.

8...Go to HR Express and print/save any documents you might need. Performance agreements, retirement account information. Make sure you know how to log on from home.

7...Think about any time you may have given your COP email or phone as contact information or as a log in for an online account. Change it now to your personal information. If you wait until after your COP account has been deactivated (which will happen by the end of the day you are notified), it may be more difficult to change.

6...A few days before notifications begin, have fish or shrimp for lunch, but don't eat it all. Stash it somewhere in the office that will be hard to find but easy to smell. A symbolic recognition of the rotting corpse that COP has become.

5...This one is pretty obvious, but if you are in denial (as are many) you haven't done it yet. Update your resume. Update your LinkedIn profile (remember use your personal contact info only) and make sure you have made all appropriate connections. Contacts are much easier to make now vs. later.

4...Have a little fun in the break room. Putting salt in the sugar shaker is beneath you, but swapping the nasty powdered creamer with flour...now that's funny right there. Let your lefties in the fridge pile up like obnoxious petrie dishes. Take the dusty, curled postings on the bulletin boards and turn them upside down.

3...Once you're gone you will be easily forgotten while those who remain are left to deal with their survivor guilt and their continued fear of the next round. Leave some little "mementos" of yourself here and there. Create a folder on a shared drive with your name on it. Password protect your files. Leave your business cards in random spots around the office. I. Was. Here.

2...Plan your reaction in case you are notified. My suggestion...as minimal a reaction as you can muster. Say as little as possible. Show no emotion. Do your homework so you can ask questions that are as difficult as possible.

1...Keep your shoulders back and your chin high. If you are selected for layoff, you are being set free from the misery that COP has become. There are better days to come. Even if you are shattered, don't them see you sweat or cry or get angry. Your emotions still belong to you...don't share them with the ba$tard$. They've taken their pound of flesh and then some. Don't give them anymore. Go home to your family and begin again.

And this one is for the brave. As you leave, take your magnetic name plate from outside your office and stick it on the bathroom door. You've just been flushed. I can't imagine a better spot for it. And how funny would that be if everyone did that as their parting gesture? What a great new COP tradition to begin! #takethenameplatechallenge

@4dts , this is a true #GOLD post.

More than Half of banking, Insurance, Retail, enterprise, legal , Automobile, Energy, Transport, Telecommunications, robotics, Artificial intelligence, Electronics, gaming, mobile apps, animation, e-commerce related software development/Testing work is outsourced or moved to India. Indian outsourcing companies are no longer seen as low cost, low skill destinations to outsource maintenance work . Walmart actually have more than 120K developers/Testers in India just to work on their software solutions. That is like 30K US jobs outsourced if we take cost as a factor.

Big companies collaborate with this outsourcing Companies and develop software solutions according to their client needs. Why would non IT companies develop Software solutions. They will outsource them to IT firms who can ramp up on demand . It’s not easily scalable in US to scale faster. That is the main reason why Apple is assembling its I-phones in China.

All folks who are commenting about low skill labor in India have no clue who is actually writing code in the background. just go around find out how many development, QA testing jobs are available in Western countries. You don't have them in plenty.

India has 4.5 Million IT Engg’s in India and another 1 million Engg globally in US, Europe, Australia, Canada etc, . They write code for the world and develop software solutions.

Google, Facebook, Apple, Microsoft, Intel, Cisco, HP, Dell, IBM, Juniper, Ericsson, Nokia, Siemens, General Electric, Honeywell, BMW, Mercedes, General motors, Robert Bosch etc etc are not fools to open shops in Bangalore and hire people in Herds.

Some Retailers like Tesco, Target have opened captive development centers to develop Retail software for their global clients from Bangalore.

Some Banks like ANZ, HSBC, RBS , American Express, Bank of America have their own captive development centers in Chennai, Gurgaon, Pune and Bangalore. More than 2 million worth US/European jobs are outsourced or moved to India. I don’t think Low cost would be only reason. They see more value In India as global software hub. World is moving towards more software oriented economy with e-commerce, Automation and world is looking at India to meet their demands.

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Wish I could take credit but this is a copy-pasta from another thread - @JbZKD9L-cvp

Pretty much nails Intel management for being a bunch of moronic clowns.

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Btw, #GOLD post, bro.

You survived the 2016 LR. Now what? Which one of these best describes your situation.

I am going to:

  1. Stay. I still believe in Cisco and I feel the best days are ahead. #NeverABetterTime

  2. Stay. I'm too invested in Cisco and am too tired and/or old to start over at this point

  3. Hang in until my bonus payout and RSUs mature and then start looking around a little bit

  4. Hang in until my bonus payout and RSUs mature and then start looking around ACTIVELY!

  5. I'm already looking and am gone at the first opportunity regardless of payouts. #HairOnFire

#GOLD WHINE

Guys, I am feeling so sad today that I was asked to leave my job. I spent so much of my time here contributing to the organization and was treated so badly.

#GOLD WHINE

It's just downright painful to go to work these days. The waiting is really dragging everybody down. Any so called efficiency is more than shot now. Nobody's smiling, nobody's enthused, nobody cares, nobody knows if they will have a job tomorrow. Very depressing. Just get it over with, would you please? I think I'll call in sick tomorrow.