Thread regarding NetApp layoffs

Thursday, Nov 3 is the day...

Heard from a really solid source that Thursday, Nov 3 is the day. It is really sad that we are now doing this twice this year. Once every spring for four years straight was bad enough. Sadly much of this could be avoided if we managed and organized ourselves better.

We have some good people and good products - we should be flourishing. Unfortunately, we have poor processes and tools and lots of inefficiency and duplication. And in some cases we have very weak leadership. All of this, plus the constant layoffs, is driving out some of our best people. And heaping more and more work on fewer and fewer people is not going to work forever.

We talk about trimming the portfolio but we never really do - there always seems to be a net add of work for whoever is left. Anyway, good luck to you all my NetApp brothers and sisters. To those of you who are the true movers of the company, it has been an honor.

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@mom, thank you for this great words. True #GOLD post

Like I said, today is the day. Good luck everyone!

If you get hit, stay strong and keep it classy. Walk out with your head held high. You have skills - you will be okay. Leave on a good note and ask your manager if you can use them as a reference.

Regardless of what we have to put up with from upper management, it has been an honor and a privilege to work with many of you. Take care NetApp brothers and sisters.

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Post ID: @mlk+KbiZolq

Like I said, today is the day. Good luck everyone!

If you get hit, stay strong and keep it classy. Walk out with your head held high. You have skills - you will be okay. Leave on a good note and ask your manager if you can use them as a reference.

Regardless of what we have to put up with from upper management, it has been an honor and a privilege to work with many of you. Take care NetApp brothers and sisters.

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Post ID: @mom+KbiZolq

For what it's worth, those of us in the field feel that there are account reps and sales reps - what does that mean exactly? NetApp has sales reps that truly position the products and portfolio and then there are the account reps that take whatever the customer is willing to give them. NetApp has not done any inspection to get rid of the bottom 10% which only "strengthens the herd" - Survival of the fittest! NetApp is only as strong as their weakest link and I can assure you that we have weak links from the bottom to the top.

Mediocrity is the new standard!

Good luck and remember - The good people always find a place to go and the bad people have nowhere to go which is why organizations like NetApp will continue to spiral downward. Can't keep the good ones and can't get rid of the bad ones.

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Post ID: @scs+KbiZolq

Oh no... Don't be fooled. Those managers, Sr Managers,, Directors know the processes are idiotic but they have to implement something and then they have to claim victory and drink wine and toast to another successful roll out... If they didn't do that, their a$$es would have to answer for their failure and incompetence. They don't want to face the music so they just high five and move onto the next round of processes. And due to the crap they put out already, the new stuff doesn't stand a chance. It's an endless cycle and plain as day.

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Post ID: @asf+KbiZolq

Oh yea... some business processes are like a bad Dilbert comic, where the punchline is managers actually think they are a good idea. I'd love to add some transformation into the company and make it more streamlined, but that's not possible because of the leadership would have to be cut. It's an oxymoron.

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Post ID: @uwt+KbiZolq

Duplication as in several groups doing essentially the sane thing. You would think this would get more work done but all it does is cause each group to kiss a-- and backstab to make themselves seem important. The culture that Kurian and Georgens before him created is one of brown nose and backstab first do work

Second. They encourage this by their inability to see the talent from the fake backstabbing leeches that remain. NetApp has rewarded bad behavior by promoting the incompetent and allowing them to push out anyone who they feel is a threat. The execs put terrible people in charge and everyone else is paying the price.

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Post ID: @hhw+KbiZolq

I remember back in the day when Dan Warmenhoven was CEO. He would always talk about how EMC won't survive because they keep buying companies and none of their products could be used together. They needed separate tools and hardware and sales, etc to manage all the different products. Look at NetApp now...making the same mistake. We're not one company anymore. We're a bunch of different companies that can't leverage anything from any other team. Different source control tools, bug tracking tools, test planning tools, etc...

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Post ID: @lmp+KbiZolq

By duplication they meant overlapping processes that could be streamlined. Not duplication in a storage efficiency manor.

They have multiple teams that still work in silos and don't collaborate their efforts into a single product or offering. Why do you think NetApp has so many different "panes of glass". OCUM, OPM, Systems Manager, Cloud Manager, OCI, Snap Center, etc, etc, etc.. They been speaking for years about combining them, but it's harder than it sounds because there's been too many chefs in the kitchen over the years, with no common practices within the groups on a unified framework. All these tools were created in different coding languages, etc. It's getting better but still a long way off.

This is just one example of change that needs to happen. The one thing that's remained constant throughout the layoffs is within product management. The same people that made the decisions that led the company to where it is today, are still there making the decisions now. This is a huge problem, and more attention needs to be made in group asap. Some of the best talent in the industry have been let go and the people calling the shots that probably haven't been in front a customer in 10+ years are driving the ship. Even when you relay the messaging from the street, you're told that your incorrect and they know better.

I'll stop ranting now, and just say that the tech is great.. most of the people are great.. However, the culture non-existent compared to what it used to be, and I hope it can find it's way back soon.

Good luck to any one impacted, and to those that are left.. get back to work.. I mean, "Have a great day".

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Post ID: @svs+KbiZolq

@ewn - as a new workforce member let me share with you a pearl of wisdom:

All large companies have the following traits:

  • poor processes

  • poor tools

  • tons of inefficiency

  • rampant duplication of work (a.k.a.. reinventing the wheel)

Also do not forget the following omnipresent features:

  • management incompetency

  • executive greed

  • rampant backstabbing

  • pettiness, ego issues, power trips (on all levels)

@ewn the sooner you come to terms with the aforementioned, the easier will be to come to work. If you cannot adjust, try to lay groundwork for a venture that will be launched, controlled and managed by yourself

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Post ID: @kdl+KbiZolq

poor processes and tools and lots of inefficiency and duplication

As a student contractor, I have definitely noticed the poor71 processes/tools/inefficiency.

What do you mean exactly by duplication?

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Post ID: @ewn+KbiZolq

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