I encourage all who can possibly afford it to leave ASAP. I left/retired 3 years ago. Worked in Aero in the phx. area for 38+ years and enjoyed many of them .Always had VG to excellent reviews. My last review at age 60 I was put into the elbow by my 28 YO know it all manager. Total crap. I said that's it I'm outta here. Gave 1 week notice. Manager was (or said he was) shocked. I just had to laugh at that line of BS. Anyway within a couple months I was feeling and sleeping much better. I look forward to Mondays now (all days really) also joined a fitness club and go 4 to 5 times a week have lost ~ 25 #s over that last couple years and feel much younger. After reading some of the posts on this WS It seem like it has gotten much much worse now. Just do it!
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amazing how many stories on this site are the same - B4, 5-score, PIP. Left after 10yrs, came back after 2.5 years at L-3 (same sh**, different company). Still too young to retire (60) - will hang tough until I find a different job.
So here is my story. Yes there is life after Honeywell. I was rifed in 1992 from hi, Ifanyone can remember those days were no different in terms of aerospace business. Landed back on my feet. I know of life of hi. There is a one. But know this, once you get a pip on you, no matter where you work or what they call it, it stays with you as little mg as you are in the company. So for all those young ones, try to stave off the pip . And on, keep acquiring new skills, layoffs have and will also be part of any industry. Best wishes to all
25 year career and sacrificed holidays with family, birthdays, school events, all were missed for trying to stay on top of my career with Honeywell and earn that top dollar. In the last few years, it was never enough, they wanted more and more work from me and demanded more and more perfection even though i was always in the 2 and 4 blocks. I finally retired 2 years ago and i have never felt so much relief from the toxic environment. It took me 3 months before i could destress and sleep a full night sleep. I rebuilt my relationships with my family and enjoy my grandkids tremendously. I didn't just quit overnight though. I started by paying off my debt, and stopped buying anything that put me in debt, paid off cars and made a huge dent by downsizing my home into a smaller place for just the two of us so that i can live on less than $1600.00 per month which includes a very small mortgage and only utilities, food, and gas. Once i got my expenses down, i was able to take off the chains and walk out of there and have some life left in me to rebuild with my family and enjoy the simple things in life. It's just not worth it but I regret I didn't learn this earlier in my life! good luck to all!
I got out a few years ago. Also B4, early 60's. They conjured up false allegations in my employee review and I got thrown in the elbow a couple of times. When they stole my meager bonus despite being in the 5 block that did it. I quit and called it retirement. No severance package. They manipulated me just the way they wanted to but that's OK. I didn't need to stay in a toxic, dysfunctional environment. I question how their managers can look themselves in the mirror.
We need more threads like this one, I'm also in a very similar situation, also B4 and tried to volunteer for the RIF and was rejected and was told by my manager he cannot help. With mortgage, family to support, and debts to pay. With that said, you're right each day is a blessing and for those who believe in God, me included. God has a purpose for each one of us alive today, and beyond the trials in life he will show us a way out so tha we can endure! Thanks for this posting!
@1av1. Wow your story is nearly identical to mine except I haven't had the guts to walk out and I haven't been RIF'd ...yet. (I posted earlier in this thread- ove)
19 years of stellar performance, always in top 10% of my group- got put on PIP last year for completely made up reasons. As I am sure you know- you aren't allowed to fight it or defend yourself in any way. They (HR) don't care about proof or truth.
I had seen this happen to others in my peer/age/longevity group and then they- Honeywell- used that to get rid of them.
I was shocked it happened to me, but then, why not? The reality is loyalty or hard work do not pay off here.
I thank you again- and others who have posted here- for your positive and encouraging words!
The toll this takes on a person and that persons family's health is simply not worth it. Life is short.
@1slk and OP, thanks for sharing. Good to know there is a life after HON. This is a true #GOLD post
Congratulations! I am so happy for you! This is an ending yet also a new, wonderful beginning for you. I am wishing you all the best!
I spent 2 years at Honeywell as a recent grad engineer, and those were some very soul-s---ing years of my life. I worked mostly 11-12+ hour days and a good handful of allnighters and weekends, with no comp time or overtime pay, of course. As a result, I accumulated a deficit of sleep over those 2 years. As much as I tried to convince myself otherwise, I felt used, underpaid, and unappreciated. There were a few times when I was driving home from work so exhausted that I could barely keep myself from falling asleep behind the wheel (coffee did nothing at this point). Looking back, I could now see that that's no way to live, not for me nor anyone else. I was able to leave Honeywell with another job lined up (shortly after the management officially announced that people needed to work more unpaid OT hours, because our department was supposedly overstaffed, though I had no idea how this was possible as most people were already working a lot of unpaid OT). Even though that new job opportunity was not without its challenges and struggles, I am thankful for it as it seems Honeywell did somehow manage to get worse after I left. On a more positive note, I am grateful for all the great coworkers I met at HW. A few times I've come across former HW employees whom I had never met before, but there was always an instant connection and understanding with one another, because only people who've worked there truly know what it's like (basically, we would end up exchanging HW horror stories). My short time at HW was a life lesson for me as it was for many coworkers I knew there. I am hoping and praying that those who are stressed out and depressed about their job situations will receive all the blessings and healing they need to move on in a brighter direction.
Congratulations! I am so happy for you! This is an ending yet also a new, wonderful beginning for you. I am wishing you all the best!
I spent 2 years at Honeywell as a recent grad engineer, and those were some very soul-s---ing years of my life. I worked mostly 11-12+ hour days and a good handful of allnighters and weekends, with no comp time or overtime pay, of course. As a result, I accumulated a deficit of sleep over those 2 years. As much as I tried to convince myself otherwise, I felt used, underpaid, and unappreciated. There were a few times when I was driving home from work so exhausted that I could barely keep myself from falling asleep behind the wheel (coffee did nothing at this point). Looking back, I could now see that that's no way to live, not for me nor anyone else. I was able to leave Honeywell with another job lined up (shortly after the management officially announced that people needed to work more unpaid OT hours, because our department was supposedly overstaffed, though I had no idea how this was possible as most people were already working a lot of unpaid OT). Even though that new job opportunity was not without its challenges and struggles, I am thankful for it as it seems Honeywell did somehow manage to get worse after I left. On a more positive note, I am grateful for all the great coworkers I met at HW. A few times I've come across former HW employees whom I had never met before, but there was always an instant connection and understanding with one another, because only people who've worked there truly know what it's like (basically, we would end up exchanging HW horror stories). My short time at HW was a life lesson for me as it was for many coworkers I knew there. I am hoping and praying that those who are stressed out and depressed about their job situations will receive all the blessings and healing they need to move on in a brighter direction.
I was squeezed until I popped. I was Band 4 as well. Crosshairs we on my back as well . . . Got tired of the HOS nonsense so consequently I refused to play the game while focusing on being a great engineer. Game evidentially matters so I was PIPed. Enough was enough. HI rejected my Voluntary RIF. So I knew it was time to leave on my terms. No regrets and life beyond HI is better than I could have imagined. I now smile everyday and treat every day as a blessed beautiful🌦 event. From misery to ecstasy was a very simple decision . . . DUMP Honeyhell and find peace☺️
Thank you. Really needed to hear this today! I still have a job but for how long? 20 years here, 58, pension, Band 4. I def feel the crosshairs on my back. Not ready to retire just yet! Again. Thank you for a positive thread.