Thread regarding Intel Corp. layoffs

Why more layoffs are all but certain unless Intel makes another more realistic strategic change!

IoT, Modems, 5G, Memory are all interesting and look to be business that will grow. So it sure sounds good to the board and financial analysts that Intel is positioning itself in them, easy to fool the non-experts! To the layman it looks credible, intel is a silicon technology power house with good manufacturing, decent factories, leadership silicon technology, and a good design history in x86 and of course the leader in Moore’s Law! Thus the stock has risen with the rising tide as nothing “yet” to burst the lies hidden beneath the surface!

Why it won’t work and all lies and worse to investors and the employees the most!

All these are all very competitive fields ( IoT, memory, 5G, modems ) with multiple players and Intel brings no unique competitive advantage except money and reputation. Even the recent noise about ARM at 10nm has many many competitors ( Apple, Qualcomm, Samsung and of course ARM ) The most fundamental issue is Intel doesn’t have a cost advantage nor manufacturing scale. Their whole technology and factory size were setup for optimizing high margin x86, not a commodity and predatory competitive environment where chips sell for few bucks to tens of bucks. Intel hasn't made money with their overhead structure in that business in more than 30 years. Then you have their track record of success or should I say lack of when they tried. In any market where speed to market with good PPAC is required intel has failed, even in Intel’s competitive days with AMD in the late 90’s Intel barely could beat AMD who was running in much smaller factory, fewer resource and far inferior silicon technology yet they beat Intel sometimes and was competitive for a long time, says a lot about how a monopoly weakens the organization. Then lastly look at the case of Tablets, Phones and Foundry as all three were huge growth areas and correct me if I'm wrong, did intel try there with the goal of losing. No, Intel tried desperately for three process generations but their design and process advantage resulted in billions in loss in a booming market. TSMC and Samsung and every other foundry made money, lots of it with far inferior process technology and beat Intel’s pants off. How can that be, if process was such the advantage then, what is different this time around? Was it just too many people and 12K ACT fixed that, think not!

I have not seen one thing that Intel has changed in their new thrusts that will change the story for memory, IoT, modems, our Foundry that will result in a different end result. Maybe someone can share what they have changed but I certainly didn’t see anything inside that changed that would make intel different this time around, and don’t say ACT, LOL.

Sorry ACT didn’t make intel leaner, it demoralized all the organization and gutted many of key expertise and put the rest of the organization on eggshells. The 12K reduction didn’t fundamentally fix the issues in technology, design, time to market, usability of the process, or PPAC to improve intel’s competitive position.

Conclusion NOTHING HAS CHANGED. X86 market will continue to shrink, Server will grow hiding all the miss execution for a little longer, but the billions being spent on IoT, Memory, foundry, 5G will all come to market in 2017 and 2018 where much more competitive companies also have solutions and Intel’s will not be more compelling on PPAC, thus MORE LAYOFFS in 2017 and 2018.

Another reason why it is going to get worse. Intel lost the virtuous cycle of silicon technology. The volume x86 to feed process and design and bankroll is over soon at intel. 25 years ago Intel was behind on process but the gift of x86 monopoly and the explosion of the volume allowed intel to catch up to the leaders. Huge volumes with every new generation of x86 enabled confident investment in huge factories and aggressive research & development targets, investment in factories & technology over the 25 years Intel became the leader in process. They conquered IBM, Motorola, DEC, SUN, and many other larger Japanese companies in silicon as none had the volume nor reward for that investment. Guess what, that virtuous cycle now belongs to TSMC and Samsun! Those two know with each new Cellphone generation they got a Tick Tock smashing intel. Both of them ramp volumes much larger than Intel and the ROI for that is huge. It is easy to see that Samsung and TSMC are embracing things like EUV and other things, and now have far larger and more motivated and efficient teams. The other thing, TSMC and Samsung have is that after they are done with ramping their Aps processor they can fill the factory with many other products from other companies getting more reuse out of the factories, intel they have no other usage for their factories. Last I checked TSMC after making Apple product in their 28nm is making Intel modem, how ironic! Intel is desperate in hope they can fill them with IoT, memory or such, but I already discussed why that will fail.

Conclusion more layoffs in 2017 and 2018, or a complete change of leadership and cultural and every way they do business which would also including more layoffs whenever the new boss shows up.

Enjoy your Monday noodling the changing of the guard. It has been 20 years in the making of lost opportunity and layoff and a few new initiatives as it stand currently won't change the tide of the ARMy and TSMC/Samsung

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Word is in BTS sales of PC were terrible! My check of local Apple and BestBuy salesman confirm sales are terrible and the channel is loaded. I expect q3 and q4 PC will again be down quarter on quarter and YoY, suspect Intel will be selling all the foundry it can, giving it away on 22nm and 14nm as factory loadings for x86 will be way DOWN. Layoffs and ACT2 to follow!

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Post ID: @3snu+J7KqFdP

Dang fat fingers

There is NO virtuous cycle in any of Intel's new thrusts, so more change and layoffs are going to happen!

Problem as I noted IoT, Modems, 5g, Foundry, and memory are all cut throat business with mutiple suppliers and most competitors here are veterans of cut throat competition and for the most part far more efficient, with larger scale and structural set up to compete much more effective than intel in its current state, even after ACT!

Intel has smaller scale, wrong structure and cost, terrible arrogant and insular cultural that will hamper it or should I go so far as to claim it will failure without further big changes!

Intel's top management in TMG and CEO as he is a TMG guy thru and thru needs to be replaced, I don't see any hope for the company without it. They TMG structure is too insular and cost ineffective and they way they do business totally foreign to how the rest of the world works competitively.

Murthy and his Qualcomm adds may be enough to start change on the product side, but TMG is a cooked goose at the moment.

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@J7KqFdP-1pwy Problem as I noted IoT, Modems, 5g, Foundry, and memory are all cut throat business with mutilple suppliers and most are veterans of cut throat completion and for the most part far more efficient, with larger scale and structural set up to compete.

Intel has no scale, wrong structure and cost, terrible arrogant and insular cultural that will hamper it or should I go so far as to claim gurantee failure.

Intel the top mangame to TMG and CEO is replaced I don't see any hope for the company.

Murthy and his Qualcomm adds may be enough to start change on the product side, but TMG is a cooked goose at the moment

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Post ID: @1lze+J7KqFdP

Well thought out article. X86 was the solution to the most dominant device 'the PC' on the planet then. As the most dominant device transitioned to the mobile, ARM cores were the solution. Intel missed the bus by not having an answer & not accepting and embracing ARM early on.

the virtuous cycle is a good idea and a quest to create the next dominant platform...IMHO this would be a set of fragmented devices we now call IoT Things.

The 12k layoff was an attempt to please the investors, the leaders BK n Murthy attempt perhaps is to use this 'investor confidence' to offset and buy time as Intel gets ready for the Things....

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Post ID: @1pwy+J7KqFdP

A few bucks? LOL -- try a few dimes.

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Post ID: @1llh+J7KqFdP

yep agree we r looking forward to job security - we are productive and add value --love my mgr. love my group enjoying the work now that all the low rung folks were isp'd... change was needed.

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Post ID: @qvh+J7KqFdP

No way! All is well at Intel now after all the undesirable employees have been purged.

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Post ID: @mwx+J7KqFdP

#GOLD post!!! Well said

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