There’s a line of just over 70K gurning locals and sycophant expats waiting to claim this glittering prize from management. Who will win?
Are promotions impossible?
What’s the deal? Is this even possible these days given localization? I’be been told 5 years in same role then it might get considered!
What is...
...the current emotional temperature around camp with all the recent geopolitical tensions in the area?
What is left to say?
Hasn't life at Aramco, work and personal, been fully illuminated by the many posts?
Should I join the company?
Im from US and currently working for another oil major. I just received an offer from Aramco, after reading all the posts here, I'm so confused and wonder should I even accept the offer? I realize many posts here are negative (pretty much the same... — read more
Can I get a nanny at aramco?
Told conflicting messages by AOC people, some say fine, others say it’s forbidden for expats unless you have 3 kids. Since this is a dealbreaker for me appreciate any thoughts. Seems Aramco is a bit of a shady outfit, the $$$s work for me but we need... — read more
So, when are expected next big layoffs?
Looks now we have the conditions for a further reduction in the expat force, any idea when can this happen?
SAIP this year
Anyone? Company factor?
What is going on with hiring?
Seen a few posts on here and Aramco expats.com about offers being low and expats rejecting. In my area we had another expat rejection this week for that very reason. Staffing are coming in with silly offers of around half of current, it’s complete... — read more
Low offer from Aramco
I am from an EU country and offered $5000 monthly base salary, plus 60% for a role in project management. It is for a 13 role. This is far away from my expectations. I have read in this site about negotiating, is getting $10000 an option?
Breathing difficulties
I’ve been in KSA for around 6 months. Been sneezing and sometimes wheezing a bit, and recently been prescribed an inhaler. Doc says it is my body acclimatising to a new environment but despite being pressed he wouldn’t confirm it’s due to air... — read more
Another year, another ‘E’
Surprise, surprise, E is for Expat. Again. Different excuse made by management this time, apparently nobody got above an E in the team! I find that hard to believe! Guess it’s easier to be dishonest than admit the system is corrupt.
Aramco not going to 13 mb/d. Was it really a choice?
If you haven't been keeping up with the news, the Saudi Government has directed Riyad not to increase potential to 13 million barrels / day of oil. With oil prices around $70/bbl, you might reason that it does not make economic sense. However, I... — read more
Let’s do a (yet another) dry run…
Nauseating rehearsals of simple presentations just for the sake of it. Absurd changes to fonts and colors demanded by childish management. No actual useful or constructive comments from anyone in the room. These people claim they are industry... — read more
How to spot an especially bad Expat job at Aramco
Involves high complexity and attention to detail. I have never seen a high level manager who valued that kind of work or even understood it. Thus, you are at higher risk when downsizing occurs. Mentions the words "work under pressure" or "tight... — read more
Housing nightmares
There was a recent comment about a Dhahran residents battle with the Aramco Housing dept. We spend A LOT of time bashing management (deservingly so) but not much mentioned about the substandard housing expats are forced to endure. I remember my... — read more
180 days in kingdom..WTF
WTF is this about? I’m being told to move to some sh1tty apartment and pay for my kids schools if I don’t “comply”. Why is it even relevant? This was not made clear to me until I landed in the pit. What can I do?
Being at Expat at Aramco was like being a temporary employee
Ever worked as a temporary employee to earn money during college? Well, I felt just like a temp at Aramco. That feeling you get when you aren't really part of the team and are just there to do work that nobody else wants to do. Some examples of... — read more
Aramco spending money like water, but where is it going?
If you look at Aramco's past annual reports, General and Administrative expense in millions of SAR were as follows: 2022 22,320 up 41% 2021 15,866 up 27% 2020 12,525 My question is where is the money going? Management is certainly not paying... — read more
Lowball Offer
I have an offer for a role in IT that is actually less than my current base by over 1500USD a month. I’ve read a few others on here have faced the same predicament.Is there any point in negotiating further?
Ithra
What’s the work life there?
Saudi Arabia: nul point
https://healthpolicy-watch.news/new-scorecard-finds-big-polluters-are-doing-little-to-address-air-pollution-with-saudi-arabia-ranked-worst/ 0 from 15!
Income Tax
What is the latest guess on employee expats by country?
Time to ...
...start working on your exit? Better to be one day early than one day late.
Came and left
Another expat I know arrived and left within 2 months. Seems to be more and more common these days if stories here and to be believed and from I hear on the ground.
Aramco being broken up
Apparently Downstream is going its own way for some dubious tax dodge. Consultants are rubbing their hands.
Tinder box
Not a region to be in when it ignites.
Approved Repat canceled by management
Anyone had this bombshell dropped on them? Now need to tell the kids that Christmas is canceled.
Which business line has the worst Expat turn over?
I'm guessing Tech Services or Finance, but I hear other areas are pretty bad as well.
Why after all this time?
Why do you people continue to be shocked, amazed and upset over the treatment of expats at Aramco? They have been wholly owned by the Saudi government (i.e. the royal family) since 1980. I would be more surprised if they operated the company more to... — read more
It is crazy how much Aramco has changed
Ten years ago, I received a job offer from Aramco. This site existed back then. In fact, I remember coming here and not finding much at all. Ten years later, WOW! Aramco has almost as many complaints as Exxon with far fewer Western employees. And I... — read more
Managing daily lies and backstabbing from management
Does anyone get used to this? Clearly cultural and they have zero shame or ethics, but what kind of coping mechanisms should I adopt when working in this kind of environment? How does anyone stay beyond a few months? Any top tips to retain sanity?... — read more
GC13 offer, any good?
$7k base offered, same as my current gig. Was expecting a lot more, worth negotiating or not?
Sharing the message
Any ideas how we can expand the sharing beyond this forum? Of course want to remain anon due to our continuing professional lives in and out of ARAMCO. But this black company deserves more negative press to prevent more western expats making the... — read more
Widespread Expat demotions
Dozens have been negatively impacted by changes to job titles imposed by Aramco. Owing to local bent management, locals have gotten promotions instead. Aramco: Where there is graft there is opportunity.
Aramco’s Expat Burn and Churn Model
Current process is as follows: Lofty promises made on hiring (aka lies)>hopes high>that’s not my job surely!>it can’t be this bad>maybe it’ll get better>how does anyone work with these people!>biased pmp rating>realization moment>insulting... — read more
Two predictions
The current CEO will not have that job by 2025. His replacement will NOT come from upstream.
False misconduct accusations
To cut a long story short, I am apparently under investigation for apparently saying something that I didn’t actually say. There has been no evidence presented to me, nor do I know what I’m actually being accused of beyond saying “something to... — read more
Air worsens
We all know how bad the air is in Dhahran. Today Jebel Heights was at 281 according to IQAir. Looks like it’s getting worse too. Dammam called out in this article... — read more
If true, explains a lot
Such as its failure to list on any major stock exchange, and more. https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Saudi-Aramcos-Disappointing-Earnings-Are-The-Least-Of-Its-Problems.amp.html