Revenue has been constipated around $3B for close to 10 years. Few companies see enough value in Viya to adopt it. SAS is actively discouraging new V9 sales. JMP sales likely do not cover JMP salaries and benefits. Commercial real estate occupancy... — read more 

Provide me with financial details on how the IPO will benefit me, or publish an early retirement plan or employee retention program that is highly motivating.

What are the 3 most important things for executives to address? #1 Acknowledge current performance, and a plan to fix it ASAP #2 Innovation strategy ( how to retain and reward the hardcore innovators) #3 Course correction of the SAS ship: Investment... — read more 

What are your resolutions? Here are mine. Get a golf tan as deep and luxurious as BH at an R&D all hands. Start my own book club to rival JPs. First book: Doing more with less. Second book: 101 (stolen) peanut butter recipes. ... — read more 

Not everyone can be a 10x developer, a tech lead, or an architect. A hierarchical organization has more leaves than branches. There have to be more followers than leaders. Some have to have the vision while others do the work. A majority do what... — read more 

What is your guesstimate for SAS 2023 revenue and why?

Do a search on Reddit for SAS under r/datascience and here are the threads... Does anyone use SAS? Does anyone use SAS anymore? Why is it still around? WTF do people use SAS for? Should I learn this? Is SAS an outdated tool? Career su----e? And how... — read more 

Whether anyone will care is another matter.

I'm beyond frustrated with this company. I'm working, on average, 50 hours a week just to keep my group above water. And for what? Cr-p pay? To have the scope of my job keep increasing while other group in SAS tell me they can't do their job... — read more 

Anyone else notice?

Here's what the judges said... "Based on the provided benchmark data, SAS Viya used 87% less computing when running “like” models against linear, logistic, random forest, and gradient boosting algorithms. When training models, SAS Viya appears ahead... — read more 

Have heard that during 2023 that no 9.4 sales were allowed, except under rare extenuating circumstances. Does this restriction also apply to renewals? And if so, and if the renewing customer does not want Viya, what is the messaging at that... — read more 

A few dozen consultants from PSD are being moved to R&D to turn service solutions into standalone products. Anyone have information on what this means for the consultants who were moved and for the ones staying in PSD? Is this an ease-in to layoffs... — read more 

Many on this site, myself included, feel that we were badly managed at SAS Institute. However, a Web search will show that such complaints are common throughout the software industry. Management of software, and technology in general, requires both... — read more 

Hearing massive EMEA layoffs to happen before year’s end. Anyone else hearing this?

Just curious, as I haven’t been to SAS campus in quite a while. Did SAS end up being able to rent out any space in buildings E or H?

There’s an abundance of others on here but let’s hear from those that worked in the other areas!

With JG's 81st approaching next month, anyone care to speculate on SAS' current succession plan? One would think they’d look for a dynamic cloud leader on the outside, but I bet they promote from within. The question is, who is the most likely... — read more 

This is certainly not the first post that has introduced the topic of employee equity. There is a lot of talk about an IPO or even another company buying SAS. I am not a Finance expert, but isn't there a scenario where employees can own shares... — read more 

With all the talk about Viya... There's no question that the Viya platform brings capabilities to the analytics world that could really differentiatie SAS solutions from other competing offerings. Do we know of any plans to push it more as... — read more 

This is the time of year when leaders and managers quietly fall off the org chart, only to have their separation announced in January. We also have possible layoffs looming. So, tis' the season. What are you hearing/seeing? Don't waste time with... — read more 

What has become of CAS, the scalable compute engine slated as the cornerstone for the future of SAS computing in Viya? Where are its original team members now? Are there parallels with the Gopher team? Hopefully answers here will be a bit more... — read more 

It started with their manager, a long-time SAS exec with excellent technical skills, who retired suddenly. Why? Was he at odds with the Big German's successor BH? Did the rest of the team's exodus stem from the same reason, or because he left, or... — read more 

PL/1 -> C, MVA, TK, In-DB, HPA, LASR, CAS/Viya. They weren’t done. in a vacuum but had approval. What. would you have done differently? Where would you have diverged? Not in some abstract, retrospective fashion, but if you were there at the time... — read more 

Based on goal setting and accomplishments, ten percent will be culled in the new year but with reduced severance (watch for new policy).

If they will not offer it, HR should somehow get the message out. Then, those of us old farts hanging on in hopes of a package (or fear of retiring right before one is announced) could go ahead and retire and SAS could shed a bunch of costs.

Like others here, I spent a substantial part of my career at SAS and now have a lot of regret I didn't make a change earlier. It's important to me that other good people don't get su-ked into the vortex and get sp-t out years later wondering what... — read more 

OK, so mistakes were made. That was recognized at the highest level. If you think the company is not on the correct course, what (reasonable and feasible) corrections would you recommend to management?

If you’re no longer working for the company, why are you here? Why badmouth the company you worked for when you’re long gone? It’s not helping you. It’s only hurting others.

Hardly anyone uses Viya. Even the existing customers to whom it was given to gratis to evaluate. Eight years later after inception, there still no clear migration path from V9 to Viya. Call me pessimistic, but that doesn't sound like a wonderful... — read more 

So much for all you end of the month doom and gloomers. Time for the November chicken littles to get the ball rolling again.

Does SAS still allow for part time work in technical roles like dev, test, tech support, etc? I used to know a few people who worked a few days a week but they are all gone now. I was thinking that as I get older this would be a nice transition to... — read more 

where are the layoffs that were expected in oct? Announced tomorrow morning maybe? makes sense to do it before open enrollment begins October 30. anyone have any details?

https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/scfindex.htm Scroll down to: _Survey Data And Replicate Weight Files_ subheading Whose else thinks SAS is going to be around for a while?

This video says it all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krSu2yeadaY

How many total customers did SAS have at the beginning of 2023 versus now? How many Viya customers did SAS have at the beginning of 2023 versus now? How many V9 customers did SAS have at the beginning of 2023 versus now? How many V9... — read more 

And what do you do? Senior Dev in r&d, 140ish

Revenue per employee is one of the key metrics that the market looks at when evaluating the relative efficiency of software companies. The numbers don't look too flash for SAS... Microsoft $958k VMWare $604k Adobe $600k Workday $497k ServiceNow... — read more 

It's me again, I was the one who 'broke the news' of October layoffs on here. There are plans for one more batch at the end of the month, 2 weeks from now, and then there should be relatively nothing until February where management will more than... — read more 

Can confirm that October is the month of doom. Was told today I have 30 days to apply for open jobs here, if I do not get one, time for me to hit the road, my job has been eliminated. SAS has too many employees at higher levels of too many job roles... — read more