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The new return to office policy is being rolled out one team at a time. Loyalty test? Measure of productivity? The testers, retail, education, and most other layoffs have something in common. Older, younger, old hire, new hire, race, s-x, or... — read more 

Har dee har har har! (From a SAS job listing) Diverse and Inclusive At SAS, it’s not about fitting into our culture – it’s about adding to it. We believe our people make the difference. Our diverse workforce brings together unique talents and... — read more 

Someone said 24 people were laid off yesterday - along with the 17 last year, that’s a huge reduction for Education - anyone know if the latest batch was mainly senior level folks?

Is there anything you can do to turn things around at SAS? I love this company. SAS is a great company, and has been over the years. It makes me think …. What can I do to save the company? Or should I give up, and work for Broadcom, IBM, SAP... — read more 

SAS's approach to reducing headcount seems to be to allow natural attrition from people resigning or retiring, plus some small cuts in a piecemeal way. Most publicly listed tech companies who have done layoffs, have done it in big chunks of 10% or... — read more 

More of us are out today...

Posters continue to write that SAS “can’t” IPO. Two examples may help. Last year, KenVue (KVUE) IPO’ed. This is a collection of older brands (Listerine, Tylenol, etc.) from Johnson and Johnson that have poor revenue growth — barely above inflation... — read more 

Bankers can prop up the numbers, buyers beware: "SAS's declining ability to compete in the analytics market; inability to attract and retain talent; flawed product strategy in relation to Viya; countless examples of bad decision making at the most... — read more 

With Techwire watching, each posting of bad news and negative opinion here weighs on this Wall Street debutante. The race between press and IPO is on. The IPO can’t come soon enough.

I wonder if this was her choice.

There are many loser products (negative ROI). Which loser product(s) will hang on merely because they are looked upon as pets by the founders?

In the past week we've had layoffs in DevOps, Retail, and Marketing. SAS confirmed only the layoff in Retail, and did not give a headcount. Does anyone know how many people were laid off?

Cary in these days: good morning, good afternoon, Goodnight. And a stage light falls from the sky. https://youtu.be/MdwuW8n3JYA?feature=shared

that would not only be another incentive for those hoping for VRBP to stick around which might be good or bad, but also an incentive for everyone to want a leaner, meaner, focused ship. the much maligned directors and managers would also be more... — read more 

...question to those let go this week...

Sweeping cuts will grind this company into the ground. And sure as he-l they’re not going to solve any of our problems. They run much deeper. We have a hard time keeping competent people on and improving on who and what we already have. But silly me... — read more 

Marketing had a big reorg today.

The entire division was laid off today.

And the positions to eliminate will become obvious.

used to be that your email address disappeared from the system immediately and you disappeared from the directory within 24 hours. now it looks like people stay active in the system for a month or longer. what gives?

Why does it seem that we've gone from being a good workplace where everybody wanted to join and build a career to a transitional company where people only join while they're waiting for something better to come up? At least that's the impression I've... — read more 

At Innovate, SAS will rebrand the company as a reseller of other people's software trying to be an AI startup. After 2 years, $1B, and permission to shuffle and fire staff in every department, JG now owns a smaller percentage of "SAS" than ever... — read more 

(Sorry don’t have access to a non-pay wall version) https://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/news/2024/02/23/sas-sued-401k-retirement-plan-fund-losses-jpmorgan.html

I have noticed the return of (early career) internal job postings. I thought these had gone away but they are back. This seems to me to be a way to discourage older workers from applying. Having the level as "associate" isn't enough, they throw... — read more 

This: ‘I have never seen an org so topheavy with "decision makers" and strategists and advisors and so precious few people to do the actual work.’ [https://www.thelayoff.com/post/@oeq+1r9TiFER]

I share many of the same laments and nostalgia and sadness in the comments here. Seems like we've covered everything. But just wondering what is going relatively well lately. Working at a customer site now, and will be investing in an upgrade. Hoping... — read more 

The age thing is a separate issue. Because turnover was so low for so long the average age of the company's employees is very high. Compared to the average age of employees at competitor orgs, it's extremely high. That does not look good for IPO. A... — read more 

What’s everyone’s opinion on the big names in the data, AI, ML space? (Msft, AWS, and Google included. Since they all have similar platforms within each cloud option) Who’s doing it right? What’s lacking? How do they stack up. Generally curious. — read more 

I recall many buildings feeling empty before Covid - partly because they overbuilt and the "office for everyone" made it feel closed off. SAS best perk for me was the campus so just curious if more staff are commuting again.

Assume separation comes with one - care to enlighten?

I wonder if the tall guy realizes that his success was based on SAS being the only game in town for so many years. Was his decision making less than stellar from the beginning? It would have been next to impossible to fail in those early years. So... — read more 

Is more managers apparently

We should all be thankful that his focus is not only on maximizing return or the survival of the company but on the employees that are his stated assets. Sure, layoffs are indicated in the preparation for sale or IPO but the fact that they haven’t... — read more 

With hindsight, the Broadcom deal could have been about the best possible outcome for SAS. It's a shame JG's ego apparently got in the way of what would have made good business sense. If you're interested, check out the WMWare page on this site... — read more 

Things you don't hear about from the company, from the 1/16 TBJ: For 20 years, the corporate hangar belonging to SAS Institute has housed company jets near the general aviation terminal at Raleigh-Durham International Airport. But amid a lease... — read more 

Is this really true? What specific business units had layoffs? Nobody I know seems to know. But something went down for certain.

I’d bet a red swingline stapler and an expired sas/access license the next round will be the week of 1/28. What is your guess or inside scoop? Who is next on the chopping block?