Heard the Legg Org is reviewing virtual ‘exceptions’ and they will need to be rejustified for approval. If not approved, must report to home office. Anyone hear anything similar?
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Some orgs under Legg are almost completely non-hub and or work virtual. The kicker is when you see folks in the same org with a note on Teams that says I'll be working virtual today (generally on Fridays) but the same liberties are not extended to other orgs under Legg. Not good for morale and everyone notices and are disgusted.
@ap HR is worthless. They should be gutted and replaced by A bot based on their lack of empathy. Is this what they are now taught at uni- f$ck the employees?
EXCUSE ME.....THEY ARE CLASSIFIED AS "SACRED CATTLE".
@ap The people that are returning from a disability and are being directed to an RTO or FTW situation should have a good case for descimination. I know of at least on person that accepted a demotion and is still working remote from his team just to keep his health insurance active. I believe this occurred because he called AT&T out for their attempted actions.
@bj starting side businesses on company time is a CoBC violation. Should also let you know we have your IP address and have connected it to your attuid via PAN VPN logs. Your job eligibility is currently being investigated by HR.
THIS !!
@ap "just got out of disability"
Seen too many return from disability and still aren't able to perform their duties or consistently report to the office 18 months later. How does HR allow this to continue?
“ you are in a lot better situation than people I know who had to travel weekly by plane (away from their families and yes, paying with their own money) just to be in the hub office 5 x 8 so they do not lose their job”
If true (unlikely) —those people really need to reevaluate their lives. And one can only imagine how dim and unproductive of an employee they are.
“ … And you brag about being "good with whatever happens." and "retirement eligible"
I bragged about neither. Nothing to brag about. Just stating fact.
Virtual under Legg here. AFAIK, this has been going yearly ever since I got the orig RTO letter. I think my supervisor has done 2-3 of these recertifications, at least.
I am also about 100 miles from an office and will go once a month as long as they'll let me.
@bf - good for you that you are able to work virtual and only need to come into the office once a month. You definitely should not complain because you are in a lot better situation than people I know who had to travel weekly by plane (away from their families and yes, paying with their own money) just to be in the hub office 5 x 8 so they do not lose their job and meet MR75 to keep their pension. I know people who sold their homes, moved to hubs and eventually laid off so I don't blame people for not selling their homes and moving their families to the hub. I heard of a case of an H1B visa-holder employee who moved his family and was still laid off losing his visa sponsorship. And you brag about being "good with whatever happens." and "retirement eligible". Maybe you are the selfish one here who cares only about yourself.
24/7 roles should be completely exempt. They have to give up enough family time as it is.
There’s always someone that can do the job better.
found the mid level exec
That’s the mindset “everyone is replaceable”
Way to value your employees
Have you tried to hire someone at T?
It’s very hard to get even marginally qualified people. Not to mention it takes along time to get up to speed.
Heard this every year since I got virtual in 2024…
Still virtual.
Haven’t been asked, haven’t been bothered about it.
@bg doing the same job as you in half the time and effort while also starting a side business which profits 4x your salary makes me a slacker? Get a grip buddy. You’re pathetic.
T needs to clean house!
F U crybabies. I am virtual because I put my life for T and didnt escape work for side business and mall trips. You slacked all your life, so get your butts to office.
I’m 100 miles from the office I have to report to once a month as an NVW. I do it without complaint. The office I went to prior to COVID (not often, as no one cared, and my team is spread all over the country) was much closer.
If they tell me I have to report there 5 x 8 —I’m done (retirement eligible). I’m not doing 200 miles round trip daily through horrible traffic at this “stage of life”. I’m good with whatever happens.
It IS disconcerting how many of you seem to want people to lose their jobs to somehow make you feel better about your own situations though. Sad, really. But not surprising. Nobody here really gives an excr-ment about anyone else.
@aq yeah ok. Maybe if “better” means cheaper and less skilled.
@az so then you agree that blanket RTO policies are outdated wrong and ineffective?
This has been needed for a long time!
@a5 Union contracts would suggest that yes, if fact, you can have very different rules for different groups of employees and in fact many fight for exactly that. This black or white thinking error is helping no one. If you treat everyone the same, no one has any incentive to succeed.
@aq Maybe if we were hybrid. Nobody besides the bottom of the barrel is willing to do 5 days anymore. Why would you opt into this mess if you had a choice?
Hopefully an unbiased group of people will review the exceptions, applying the same set of rules. It screams injustice when you see someone who just got out of disability and still rehabilitating from a stroke to be asked to RTO full time and move to a hub or be let go while there are others allowed to WFH 100% of the time. Do you have to be close to dying to be justified as an exception? Is there a team in HR and legal who oversees these decisions including firing, layoffs and even hiring? (yes, just look around the office and the new people being hired - please don't tell me that only one group of people is intellectually superior. Some are good, yes, but not all - a clear discrimination. Where is justice when even age discrimination is "normal" when hiring?)
Another scenario is a team of engineers doing the exact same job but only 30% had to come to the office 5 x 8 and must move to a hub while the rest are 100% virtual wherever they are. To the manager of this team, how is this fair? Do you even consider that in your performance reviews where one has to deal with the stress of getting ready for work, daily commute, limited parking, swiping badge at the "right" time and finding a suitable workstation (minimal noise and distraction) to get to work early and cover meeting with folks from multiple time zones while another walks 3 steps from bed to get logged in and will be logged out earlier in the day.
@a4 depends on who they are. If they are the developers, the engineers, the programmers, the cybersecurity expert.. nope. They will always have an exemption. Those skills are competitive and they can always find a remote job somewhere. My brother is a cloud engineer, he quits like changing weather.
If I can’t be virtual then no one else should be either. Was virtual for a decade before Covid. F this place, make it max pain, and make them regret their decision when more and more talent and knowledge walks.
Good. Weed em out. It’s about time
“You cannot have a set of rules for all AT&T employees and the a separate set of different rules for a select favored group.”
100%
Good. Anyone who is virtual or NVW should be reported to HR anonmously for evaluation. That is how we keep things fair. You cannot have a set of rules for all AT&T employees and the a separate set of different rules for a select favored group.
5x8 or terminate.