Heard today that recently, folks in org going through layoff tried to volunteer to go but were denied due to ‘business needs’ while others next to them were let go. Has anyone experienced this recently?
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I had told my management well in advance that I was going to retire mid-year this year so they would not give me a package when the layoffs came. So my advice to anyone planning to retire is to only give two weeks notice or whatever the shortest time period you need is to get your pension, etc. in order. Sc--w them since they have no hesitation sc--wing you.
Recently worked for me.
Boss honored my request but tried to convince me to stay. I thought my runway was short here anyway and the timing aligned with my long-standing retirement plan so I left.
I was lucky.
And for the folks who will post asking me why I still check out this forum, just keep quiet.
depends on the org. In the Torretta Org we had people volunteer to take the money so that we didn't have to let go of teachers pet.
A lot depends on your role, in my experience with the various sales organizations at least I think that it's better to remain silent than raise your hand.
GES mobility seller who had always exceeded quota/plan raised their hand was told thank you and that it would be considered if/when the next reorg happened, shortly after they were moved to a lower tiered and historically underperforming account module, when they couldn't meet the new quota they were threatened with PIP and ended up resigning. Another CSE seller who was an exceptional top-tier multi-year Diamond Club Level performer was looking to stay on for another year then retire, several months later their sales team had a reorganization and a couple of the teammates where impacted and were going to be let go and given severance packages, a manager came to the seller and asked since they were looking to leave in a few months if they would consider trading with one of the impacted employees -a win-win for everyone, the CSE agreed, however once things went down they listed the seller as retiring and denied them the severance package. In the sales organization T management is not your friend
Our team needs to let 3 FTE go. I told the boss I would volunteer and he said he appreciated it although he was not going to pick me originally. It is good if your boss is cool. Looking for paperwork in Jan.
Our boss still asks the group if anyone wants to volunteer, while stating he can’t guarantee it will be an accommodated. Over the years they have accommodated most of the retirement eligible folks that volunteered to go. It just makes sense and makes it easier for everyone. Having laid people off before, I know I would much rather take a volunteer than surprise someone with it.
Usually they won't accept your volunteer offer if you are close to retirement or a high performer. Acceptance chances increase if you have average or low appraisals, your supervisor dislikes you for any reason, or are at the top of your pay band.
I was 68 and told we don't pay people to retire. I said fine I will stay until you cant stand me any longer. 6 months later I had an offer.
If you put your hand up they know you’ll be leaving soon anyway. They won’t do you the favor. This is how they get a 2 for 1 special.
Yes. I was told I am essential to the workgroup.