Is that true?
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@fg I mean, I guess good for you? But you've spent 10 years letting them live rent-free in your head. Revenge might feel good. But it means you're still organizing your life and your career around them. Don't give them that power.
@a6 ......you deserve the right to make them fail, at least in some way. Hold that thought and vision of how you can contribute to it, and if you are as emotionally immature as I am you will find that you can succeed in this endeavor. It will be the fire below that keeps you going now. i know. I've achieved great satisfaction in putting a significant dent in their business in one specific technology area and it was a whole team effort. The new team accepted me and encouraged this mission without a word spoken about it. The layoff was almost a decade ago with results accumulating in step functions 5+ years ago.
Here is what I believe/know:
1- top level decide on global number and candidates teams/products and pourcentage.
2 - Regional HRs talk to senior directors and agree on numbers and seniority level targets.
2-a If a director is targeted, the rest of full list is owned by the senior director and the local HR (through what they know/gathered in years about the team from that same targeted director).
2-b If not, they dispatch that to local HR and the director. These two make a list of names.
3- Same logic here, if a manager is targeted, the rest of the process is owned by the HR and the director. If not the director could consult managers of targeted people if they trust them enough to be in their corner. If they don’t but still they want you, the decision is made with no consultation.
4- out of this process, in the first run -10% (September 25), proposals were submitted by directors before even knowing what’s going on from 1-3. Meaning they were told give me your 10% list in case your team is targeted (but no one and everyone is targeted). That helped the senior directors to negotiate with regional HRs from the beginning.
If you know any well placed people, you can double check what I shared.
Long story short : don’t trust your manager, your skip levels, your HRs. It doesn’t mean they are all bad people, but they are people! Should be enough to expect anything under some circumstance (exceptions exists obviously! Exceptions ;))
Play politics or leave.
@cf
Depends on management levels. Higher management level decides numbers, middle management have to execute the task and lower management takes the blame and have cope with the facts.
@e7 which team?
My manager was laid off along with our whole team, so honestly it makes me feel better knowing they didn’t make that call. Proof the Synopsys folks had an agenda this whole time, and didn’t want to work with us after all. Their loss. Keep your dysfunctional environment.
I was laid off in November. My manager and HR all claim they had no involvement in the selection process—they say it was simply a decision made by headquarters. However, what I actually heard from another department is that my direct supervisor or the manager one level above them is the one selecting who to lay off locally. This is an indisputable fact.
There’s no way that many VP-level executives at headquarters could possibly know who’s doing what kind of work locally or who’s delivering results. If you were laid off, it was your supervisor who chose you. And they’ve been promoted.
However, they might end up getting laid off themselves later on. It actually happens.
I agree, managers are more than involved, they are the ones making the decisions. I know that as a manager, no decision is made out of your validation. Maybe they are forced to do it, but some resisted and made it through, while others pick up the opportunity to settle scores.
@a7 sorry but telling managers have not been involved is lying.
They were all involded but pretend to not. That’s easier .
@a6 do you mind sharing which specific group were you from?
@a6 It’s such a difficult time for everyone. I’ve always been curious about how the layoff decisions are made in EMEA, especially since my manager told me they weren’t involved in the process at all. If you’re comfortable sharing, which department were you in?
Yeap. I was laid off in March and my last direct teammate in the US was let go today along with many others in Europe. What a trash company. And our incompetent, corporate climbing, middle manager (who conducted all the layoffs) was promoted for it. Synopsys’ only vision for profitability is through cuts. They deserve to out right fail. I’m waiting for the stock to bounce just enough and then my hands are thoroughly washed. All of you amazing employees deserve better than this. Ansys sold us to the wolves.