Question was posed at this quarters fireside chat where Demchak essentially "hinted" that 5 day return to office will be required following a flowery rant about how while WFH "benefits employees" it "harms the company" and that he is trying to imagine a world where "he is asking you to do your job".
Good luck everyone in Pittsburgh, I would not plan on a cost of living adjustment or a commute benefit coming down the pipeline while Ol' Bill claims his 2026 stock award of the tens of millions.
Oh look, HR got more of their staff trolling this site to try to discourage unionizing. Nice try, keep the down votes coming…it only continues to reinforce that our movement is making you nervous!
Maybe you should focus more on your employees rather than your daddy’s 20 million dollar bonus. If you did that, you might actually be doing your job.
Vickie, did you stand up for us? Or did you fear losing your job too if you crossed your boss.
If you did speak up and are worried about your job, sounds like you may also want to join our union.
If you didn’t support the employees, you should be ashamed. This goes against the grain of everything you have espoused and worked for your entire career. Where’s your managerial courage????
I understand the anger around this issue. I feel it too. What is more profound is the complete and total fear and sadness I have as a mother of young children navigating this situation. This is a major hit to my effectiveness as a parent and my enthusiasm / loyalty to PNC. How can they do this without any reservation or hesitation? This is the most retrograde policy I’ve ever seen. I am losing sleep over it. Working mothers and caregivers have no place in PNC now. That is clear. So disappointing and damaging. How could they? (Or, How could he - Bill?)
Having spent many years in two different unions, going that route would be the biggest mistake you coukd make.
@168 don't you realize they could just do that now. Unionization is what prevents sh-t like that from happening.
Don't let fear be the enemy of progress.
You guys suggesting unionization over this are hilarious. Do you really think that is feasible? Don’t you understand they would rather fire all of you and burn the company to the ground before that was allowed to happen?
Yes, you are correct that HR and others are definitely trolling this site. But what HR and other trolls don't realize is that this is an open site, so not only can union organizers follow this thread, but so can other interested parties.
Also, if you want to leave a voicemail for anyone and are worried about your voice being recognized, please consider using a free text-to-speech reader such as the TTS reader.
For example, if you want to reach out to the Board of Directors, type up what you want to say in the TTS reader, and then dial the board member's phone number. Be sure to use *67 for privacy before the number, and do not relay any personally identifiable information. Once you reach the board member or their voicemail, hold your phone up to your personal computer, and hit play on the TTS reader. It will then read your message to the board member. Stay united - we all have a voice!
@b7 it affects everyone!
You can tell theres an exec scrolling this page because the single downvote on all the union comments with 10+ upvotes.
We will fight for fair wages and treatment. This is not an if but an inevitability. This company is nothing without its employees and we are tired of being dragged around on the whim of a man who uses the 4 corporate jets for personal use while we spend hundreds of dollars just to park.
@qm
Everyone should tuck this comment away for keeping because we are all going to have to take action.
@aj
D3mchak just DESTROYED Employee relations with this one weird trick that productivity hates.
If you are serious about unionizing, reach out to staff @ betterbanks.org. This organization represents financial services employees.
The National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) guarantees employees the right to join together, organize, and speak out for better wages and working conditions. If employers retaliate against employees, it is a violation of Unfair Labor Practices (ULP). Please keep this information handy as you make your decisions.
For more information, go to betterbanks.org to research or send an email (from your personal email) to staff@betterbanks.org to get the process started.
I can sympathize with all of the personal stories, but that is not going to move the needle. Also, reaching out to your manager or HR won't help. Please consider the following:
Use the Brave Browser or NORDVPN to hide your IP Address. This site is supposed to be anonymous, but I am protecting myself. HR trolls this site, so be careful.
Billy D's total compensation for 2025 was $21.4MM. He made that due to our loyalty and efforts. #BrilliantlyWhoring. He used us to line his pockets, and now he is throwing us away like trash. How can he declare Q3 2025 Net Income of $1.8 Billion (that is a single quarter), $4.35 Diluted EPS, record revenue, 8% noninterest income growth, strong credit quality, announce the acquisition of First Bank - AND THEN STATE REMOTE WORK IS HURTING THE BUSINESS?
We are not only employees but customers. If a customer is not happy with how they are treated, they have every right to take their business elsewhere - especially because banking is a commodity. Some posts here alone have generated 20K views; negative experience has a 15-fold impact. According to Con Affairs, the average person has 5.3 bank accounts. So, the potential negative impact is on 1.6MM accounts. And if industry stats say each account has $3K, that equates to $4.8 billion of impact if we and our family and close friends take our business elsewhere. Let's see how that gets explained to the Board of Directors.
I have been a loyal PNC Employee for decades and have worked 100-hour workweeks, months on end, without overtime pay because I enjoyed my job and was treated with respect. If you are now telling me I am HURTING the company because I am remote, are you also going to cancel all the overseas contracts, as they are ALL REALLY REMOTE?
If you want to make an argument for the benefits of remote work, please focus on the business value you bring to the table. For example, I support Online Banking, and if the application goes down, if you are not going to provide me flexibility, then I cannot return the favor - ask offshore to man all the critical incident calls and measure the increase in downtime for our customers and the level of account attrition. Or I work in Wealth Management and often need to call customers after hours; if you are not willing to provide me flexibility, I will have to wait until the next business day to return the phone call to that customer who has 5.3 million in their IRA Investment account. I work in Regulatory Affairs; if you are not willing to provide me flexibility, I will no longer jump on a call at 10 PM to finalize a response that needs to be sent to the regulators by midnight. I work on Technology Projects, and if you cannot provide me flexibility, I will no longer be working 60 hours a week to deliver the new Corporate Banking release. I am a disabled employee who has worked remotely for years, coordinating overnight software releases for production fixes. If you cannot provide me flexibility, I will not only lose my income, but your workforce will become less diverse and known for not being accommodating to those with disabilities.
Share your stories with the Board of Directors on how the mandate will financially harm the business. Based on public information, here are a few you can call anonymously (use *67 before you enter the number )
Press Contact (Only if Needed): Tim Grant: 412.779.5834. Make it clear you are not speaking on behalf of the company. You can only speak on your own behalf as an anonymous source. Do NOT use any identifiable information such as your name, department, or the company name. You can relay that you work at a large regional bank and only speak in generalities. Let the reporter connect the dots.
Don't tell anyone that you post on this site, not even your closest friends at work.
I have never posted on this site before. However, after hearing everyone's stories and learning that our CEO is trying to gaslight the Board by stating that remote work and flexibility are HURTING the company, I was compelled to act.
If I get fired, I will immediately retain a labor attorney and file a whistleblower and retaliation claim. And if others are in the same boat, we can look to file a class action.
I absolutely hate that it has come to this. Bill, you can make this right - you know you are not doing this for financial reasons - but because your ego got hurt. If you can't get a hold of your directs on a Friday, fire them, don't take it out on the rest of us.
This was the same speech (without the swearing) that JPMC CEO Jamie Dimon gave at his townhall meeting in Columbus earlier this year. I feel that no matter how much other financial institutions state they are guiding their own future, where JPMC goes others follow.
This is ridiculous.
Its time to unionize. Now.
Between this and the new promotion policy implemented by Sridhar where you need to be in a role for 3 years and working in the new role for 6 months before promotion is going to have talent run for the hills. Employees at PNC take the lower then industry standard pay for the flexibility and promotion opportunities. Without it, there’s no benefit. Good luck becoming a top 3 bank while not attracting nor retaining talent.
I am not surprised that a man making the equivalent total comp of 500 employees would be out of touch, but the smug "its good for employees but bad for business" sent me. I hope this in office bull-ht does backfire and make people unionize. I am spending hundreds of dollars a month just commuting there 2 days a week even though I am well outside of the standard "in office range". Our comments and complaints to management go completely unheard, quitting individually will just allow them to outsource another job. There needs to be some sort of mass resistance if we expect any change here.
I'm not shocked about the mandate, there's been rumblings for months. The arrogance on display today was wild though. I really think he has no idea how he comes off. What an a-s.
So is this affecting all remote workers? My department was created remote after the pandemic. Fully remote. Operations department. I’ve never stepped foot into an office. I was told if you’re more than 35 miles away from an office you’re safe and stay remote. If you have an office close and it’s in a different state, you pay taxes in 2 states and there’s no salary increase.
So is this for all remote workers?
Remember when we were knocking it out of the park with Ursit and there were no complaints?! but now bill is sad face because parking garages aren't full!
Seems to me this isn't about productivity because our uptime hasn't moved.
Seems to ... this is about parking garages and kick backs from local business guilds and side deals.
Evil evil man. This is why I feel no sympathy or respect for any ceo. He should have stuck those cookies in the meeting up his a-s.
@ab the irony of PNC forcing employees back into the office, and then they "collaborate" and then unionize would be absolutely hilarious
Can’t wait for all the complaints about lack of support for our CL0 app during the 90 mins we commute home from an office where we can’t even reserve seats to sit as a team!
Time to take massive sh--s in the open air office space. Gotta make it comfy for our new overlords from india.
So when my yearly review comes up with my manager, I will tell him I want to be compensated in cash for all of my overtime instead of "comp time". I will also make it known that once my laptop closes at 5pm and I go home, it's off till 8am the next day. No more "comp time" I want cash for overtime!
@aa if you want to actually make a difference at PNC, the employees need to start socializing the creation of a Union and start making adequate steps towards getting buy in from 30% of the workforce/office/department.
The company will obviously react aggressively to this behavior, but that's because it does pose a genuine threat to their ability to keep wringing employees for every last bit of profit generation they have.
https://pghdsa.org/how-to-start-forming-a-union/
Well, if this comes to pass there will need to be actions that benefit the employees and damage the company, to restore balance.
Guaranteed that I will ratchet up my malingering, disengagement, unhelpfulness, and resource waste. Might even toss in a little random vandalism when the mood strikes.
I know it's not enough to offset this bs but I'll do my best.
@a8 Someone asked a question asking for specific details and he went on a long ramble about people abusing WFH and how he's sorry to those in tech working 60 hour weeks remote that someone else is abusing this privilege.
Are there any official details or was this mentioned in passing?
He said “It benefits employees and damages the company”… total BS. We’ve been hybrid for 6 years now and have been doing more with less.
Did you also notice how he said we have the same staffing numbers as we did when we were 1/3 the bank? You really think that's automation? And not teams who are overworked and underpaid? Their regard for us as employees is laughable. It must be so nice to be a millionaire exec. Happy for him.
LOL we weren't even 5 days a week pre pandemic. I'm going to file this RTO right with the other ones. Go ahead and make me do it.