Thread regarding U.S. Bank layoffs

@1hm What about them? I've been there before and I worked my way into a position that was salaried that I'm also able to work remotely. They'll need to carefully advance in their career to do the same. Every position isn't the same, that doesn't mean you take away one groups benefits, because it doesn't fit with another groups job profile and what an employer needs from them.

@143 Think about all the hourly employees at the bank, which make up the bulk of the workforce, that just don’t get paid if they don’t come in and don’t have the luxury of hybrid. They figure it out.

@143 I am a parent and I’ve talked to plenty of my friends with kids. Again for DECADES parents figured it out. We came into the office 5 days a week and worked full time (40 hours + in the office). We either came in early so we could leave early or came in late and worked late. It’s a life choice and not the employers responsibility. Nobody said anything about not being flexible when needed.

@13y I really do hope you aren't a manager, I've heard this opinion before and it's very narrow minded. If companies functioned with this attitude they would find it difficult to employ parents. You may not think this is a big deal, but employers need diversity if experience and naturally you're going to have working parents in the mix. At the end of the day no one should be responsible for others choices, but employers need to be conscious of their employees situation, whether it be medical or family issues. No one wants a sick child or an emergency at school, but things do happen and everyone needs to be flexible. Perhaps you'll learn when/if you have kids.

It’s called before and after childcare. Something that has existed for decades. People also used to come in early or stay late so they could then leave early or come in late.
The bank isn’t responsible for your life choices and certainly shouldn’t be subsidizing it by having a group of people working less than full time to accommodate children’s schedules. Saving on childcare isn’t the bank’s problem. Also employees without school age kids consistently get stuck picking up the slack and working more hours for the same pay while these people constantly use their kids as an excuse. When it comes to annual review and merit, employees without kids get zero incremental benefits (time off) or compensation for doing it. Work your 40 hours however you need and stop making your life choices your employer’s and your coworkers’ problem. Plenty of parents have managed to figure it out.

I have ramped up my use of sick time in 4hr increments to handle kid issues. May need to start doing that as well for "mental health afternoons"...

@dv It’s funny you mention this scenario bc something similar happened to me. In the effort of meeting the 60%+ threshold we’re under, I went into the office on Saturday and worked a couple of hours; all the while thinking this is what it’s come to for me. Knowing if my RTO numbers aren’t met are a consideration for termination in spite of me being a performance-based contributor is crazy work to me.

So… how do people with kids manage this? Because the way this bank is running, If I, - a full time, salary exempt worker, decide to have a child and it needs to be picked up in the late afternoon, I better find a new job before that because this place doesn’t work for parents.

From what I read, flexible arrangements on are only for 90days max or something.

@dv or you're a single parent with nobody to step in or their other parent is in a job with an inflexible schedule so you either a) burn through a sick day to make it count or b) you don't and it doesn't count

@dv yea if I use my time and gas to come into the office and I'm not here "long enough" because I get sick, a kid gets sick, life happens and I don't meet some arbitrary amount of time spent, whatever. I'm not making that sh-t up. I'm not playing this game. I was remote and trusted to manage my own schedule for literal years before, during, and after COVID.

@dv or worse, the 6 hours you put in don’t count at all because you left before the 8 hours

Imagine being in the office for 6 hours, and you receive a call that your child is sick and needs to be picked up immediately. You don’t wanna leave because you need to stay in office for eight hours. So you pick up your child, get them settled, and return to the office after hours and pretend to work for two hours just to meet some BS benchmark. Yea, I’m not doing that.

@d4 It's in the Workplace Excellence page in the intranet.

I heard they put in a place so if you’re traveling it counts as in office whereas before it didn’t. I am remote so haven’t seen it but that was announced to our team.

@b2 Nailed it!

@aw do you work in Risk by chance? There are many managers like that.

Same here, I stopped caring. Just do bare minimum every day and pray for layoff.

They are making us miserable so we quit and avoid severance pay.

Their only goals is to force us to quit so they can offshore to India.

It really doesn't matter, does it? They're going to do what they want and we have no control.

We already know they are doing everything they can to drive attrition so they don't have to pay out severance. It is only going to get worse.

I almost walked out today. I am the type of employee that any NORMAL manager would love to have. But under my gaping c.u.n.t. of a manager, I am criticized and belittled multiple times a week because of her unjustifiably inflated ego.

Just give me my severance and get it over with.

@ab this is where I'm at too. Not planning on quitting but I will just do what works for me and my life. If they have an issue with that I guess they can show me the door and send my job to India where someone will do it for an hour of overlap in working time and accomplish nothing. I'm sure it'll work out fine for them. I'll go find something low mental effort and work part time to recover from the burnout this place has caused.

I'm just too tired to actually care at this point.

Hey OP .. WTF dude don't bite my style and plans

I no longer give a sh-t. I simply won't comply and it will take at least a few months before there's enough evidence to fire me for non compliance. At that point I won't give a fu-k because I plan to quit without notice next March anyway.

I'm at my breaking point too. If they enforce more, I simply won't comply and redouble my efforts to find new work. Won't bother submitting my 2 weeks when I find it too. Respect and trust goes both ways.

There has been nothing substantiated and it's all been rumors. The rumors being:

• we're going back 5 days a week soon
• they're going to enforce 8 hours a day in the office
• we're going back 5 days a week with 8 hours enforced and no WFH flexibility

These have been circulating for a year plus. And they rear their heads on this site and trolls say "get back to work you whiny losers" and then everyone gets mad. Rinse and repeat.

We can expect the goal posts to be moved for review time. I'm not changing anything I'm doing. I can't bring myself to care. They're not giving sh-t for raises and bonuses and if my a-s in office time not being good enough is what gets me on a layoff list, what the fu-k ever just get it over with at this point. It's clear my other contributions don't matter at all. Only how many days and how many hours I sit in this stupid desk in this disgusting outdated building filled with mold. Alone, because my team is mostly remote across the US and India.