Susan, how do you feel about being the Captain that sank the ship?
No worries
No worries. I'm younger than 45, was an admin, and was canned. I'm grateful that I'm young enough to get another job and still retire a decent age. Though the lay offs can be considered random, managers had to chose from their list of employees and... — read more
They DID have about 200 employees that needed to be removed from the training roster
They DID have about 200 employees that needed to be removed from the training roster. I think maybe they "screwed up" the "training server" so they could have a valid explanation of so many people getting their classes scheduled. It all makes sense... — read more
Back @Anonymous from the last Friday comment that those who had Encompass training cancelled were on the block: looks like no, for now
Back @Anonymous from the last Friday comment that those who had Encompass training cancelled were on the block: looks like no, for now. I still think that there will be a short delay before round 2 (and as usual everyone after their group meetings... — read more
Yeah, Engineering, HR I'm sure doesn't like to do this
Yeah, Engineering, HR I'm sure doesn't like to do this. But sort of like management, kind of like working at a slaughterhouse where you have to kill live animals everyday, they eventually get used to it, and it becomes a number or something in their... — read more
Of course in my humble opinion
Of course in my humble opinion. These HR types administer investigations from behind their desks and look you straight in the eye and tell you one thing while knowing different. I once had Pat (Dragon Lady herself) in HR quote an emp oyee that she'd... — read more
Keep in mind, too, that there are a lot of projects lost, coming to an end or slowing
Keep in mind, too, that there are a lot of projects lost, coming to an end or slowing. As more and more people jostle for the charge codes, tension builds, tempers flare and some are going to say "f this!" and look for other employment. Corporate and... — read more
It depends on Corporates response to Sue and the I.S
It depends on Corporates response to Sue and the I.S. agents audit recommendations. This first step is an "Oh ****, we better DO something!" response to Corporate scrutiny. So they mass fire 4%. That way they can say "We ARE taking care of business!"... — read more
So when do you predict the next one?
So when do you predict the next one?
As far as more layoffs, I don't have any proof..
As far as more layoffs, I don't have any proof... but I've seen this before, they ALWAYS say the first round is the last. It helps to ease the tension.
AS far as I can tell, discussing "Exhibit B" is not prohibited, in fact L-3 mass communications discussed this with at least KUTV and other...
AS far as I can tell, discussing "Exhibit B" is not prohibited, in fact L-3 mass communications discussed this with at least KUTV and other news media. If anyone has a scanner and wants to scan Exhibit B document into a PDF or image an post that to a... — read more
It's in everyone's "Exhibit B" handout, 12 pages long, alphabetized
It's in everyone's "Exhibit B" handout, 12 pages long, alphabetized. Page 1 begins "Administrative Support 1" through Admin 3; "Exhibit A" is the confidentiality agreement, page 2 defines what rights you give up by accepting the severance package... — read more
Chicken neck..
Chicken neck... show proof because I know higher up people that disagree with you...
Let me clarify that last statement: None of the admins YOUNGER than 45 were canned
Let me clarify that last statement: None of the admins YOUNGER than 45 were canned. That's not to say they won't do some mroe later, it's planned, but right now they need to recover, layoff some more, recover/clean up, then more layoff until... — read more
I agree with Chicken Neck.
I agree with Chicken Neck.. how can you be a slow admin? I can tell you that ALL the admins laid off were over the age of 45... there are still lots of admins OVER 45 but NONE of the admins UNDER 45 (20's - 40's). However, the severance package, in... — read more
It wasn't just under-performers.
It wasn't just under-performers.. it was also a lot of good workers, too much pay etc for what they were doing, and plenty of political mischief. When DCMA, Corporate ethics audits and govt review and challenge boards start happening, they don't want... — read more
Why are you guys trying to freak people out its the slow people who got fired and its good they are done till at least encompass roles out
Why are you guys trying to freak people out its the slow people who got fired and its good they are done till at least encompass roles out
190 employees X an average salary of 45,000.00 = $8,550,000.00 per year in payroll savings, plus the medical and benefits plans savings...
190 employees X an average salary of 45,000.00 = $8,550,000.00 per year in payroll savings, plus the medical and benefits plans savings probably bring annual savings to around 16-17 million per year. That just about covers the "Rover Incident"; now... — read more
Group meetings are meant to tell you more lies or things you already knew
Group meetings are meant to tell you more lies or things you already knew. They want to calm the herd the best as possible so they can position the axe better... your managers lie and hide the truth. Good luck though.
I've felt like I've been in a vacuum for the last few hours
I've felt like I've been in a vacuum for the last few hours. Ate some chicken wings for lunch.. now it's time for a few beers. Tried to activate my unemployment benefit online, seems the system thinks I had wages in 2 other states so I have to call... — read more
Anon, I don't think it was 4-10 and 9-80 shift schedules
Anon, I don't think it was 4-10 and 9-80 shift schedules. Happening on a Thursday kills two birds with one stone. Unless they have an "Exhibit C" in addition to B. That being said, it is only around 4%, wouldn't surprise me to see more layoffs... — read more
We are holding group meetings this afternoon so I think the blood bath is over.
We are holding group meetings this afternoon so I think the blood bath is over.
We are holding group meetings this afternoon so I think the blood bath is over.
We are holding group meetings this afternoon so I think the blood bath is over.
We are holding group meetings this afternoon so I think the blood bath is over.
We are holding group meetings this afternoon so I think the blood bath is over.
In are meetng they said 200 total and I wanna know where this person below is getting there info..
In are meetng they said 200 total and I wanna know where this person below is getting there info... since they said it pretty much over and I know 9/80 that went today
4-10 shift employee's let go today
4-10 shift employee's let go today. 9-80's will be tomorrow. More layoffs possible for next week to reach the 10% mark. Mid year reviews to take place in July.
Also 1 trainer.
Also 1 trainer.. :( I forgot to add that one.
KUTV reported 190 layed off, about 4%
KUTV reported 190 layed off, about 4%
Summary of Exhibit B Postings: Admin,7
Summary of Exhibit B Postings: Admin,7. Assembler,25. Business Process Analyst,3. Buyer, 1. CAD/CAM designer, 2. Cafeteria worker, 3. CD/DM Analyst, 3. COOP, 1. Comp Mainte Tech, 1. Contracts Administrator, 1. Database Administrator, 1. EHS Rep, 1... — read more
25 Assemblers
25 Assemblers.
My brother Bilo - he is RETAR! - in HR was let out of cage and sent home.
My brother Bilo - he is RETAR! - in HR was let out of cage and sent home.
Most departments got about 5 people laid off..
Most departments got about 5 people laid off... mainly low productivity and last chance people.... so if you work hard you should be ok
@The Canned One - 53 lines up, no word on 63 yet.
@The Canned One - 53 lines up, no word on 63 yet.
does anyone know how many assemblers got laid off? I'm just on my way into work, and not looking forward to see if I got canned or not
does anyone know how many assemblers got laid off? I'm just on my way into work, and not looking forward to see if I got canned or not
does anyone know how many assemblers got laid off? I'm just on my way into work, and not looking forward to see if I got canned or not
does anyone know how many assemblers got laid off? I'm just on my way into work, and not looking forward to see if I got canned or not
Thanks Anon, glad to hear Exhibit B was part of the package, lol! Funny how in the "Manager" section, only 2 managers out of more than 140...
Thanks Anon, glad to hear Exhibit B was part of the package, lol! Funny how in the "Manager" section, only 2 managers out of more than 140 were laid off. What is that, 0.7% when the company needed at least 10%? Maybe the fat cats are on the next... — read more
@ the canned one: I got the age and position paperwork as well
@ the canned one: I got the age and position paperwork as well. No worries (other than we don't have a job...) Good luck to all of us. It sucks, but there's nothing we can do but get back on our feet.
Names, ages, and lists of those who were or were not laid off provided to the public is confindential
Names, ages, and lists of those who were or were not laid off provided to the public is confindential. L-3 CSW can expect potential law suits.
Prog/Analyst ages: 2 (61), 60, 42, 56, 58
Prog/Analyst ages: 2 (61), 60, 42, 56, 58. Not really a pattern there, the ones "Not Selected" appear to more 50-60s and then you have some 30-40 year olds, they didn't go heavy on anyone age since for some reason it appears all of you are older... — read more
Names, ages, and lists of those who were or were not laid off provided to the public is confindential
Names, ages, and lists of those who were or were not laid off provided to the public is confindential. L-3 CSW can expect potential law suits.