I wish they would offer a package to retire...I would take it.... Tired of the bs, tired of my cr-ppy peers not being in the office and nothing being done about it, tired of lying sales people, tired of getting up early to get a desk, tired of the same lunch options, who else feels this way
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Recently theylet me go after 41 years and told me the day I returned from being on disability for a few weeks after a surgery. THEY DONT CARE!!! Happy Warn Act was triggered!! I am sooooo happy to be retired! No more ‘scary Sunday’s’, dreading Mondays and all the stress of RTO!! All the BS! It’s amazing to be ‘free’!! I will figure it out!
@OP sadly the environment and culture at AT&T now is one where employees are aching to leave....as others have mentioned, give the employees an incentive to leave and they will leave in droves....
The good news is that come February, 30% will get that notification. They aren’t playing around this time. Gotta get to Stankey’s number.
I was let go last year.
Best thing that ever happened to me. I actually thanked my Director. I took my severance and never looked back. Now it's been a year, I'm happier, better off, and a lot less annoyed. If they offer it, my suggestion is take it. There is life after T.
Funny how there's so many dooshly bags on here.
Most would just voluntarily take severance at this point. No extra incentives required. Just give me what you give the bottom 10%.
@q4 , funny how so many are mendacious & utterly delusional.
If you “volunteer” to be surplussed and management grants your request, you can still claim unemployment benefits, since the surplus is considered an involuntary termination. Take full advantage of the situation!
@n7 union workers are not doing anything anyway, just keep them so call working.
OP, I can understand all of the other reasons, but lunch is really pushing you to the edge?
@p3 in my 25 years at t dealing with layoffs, offers to leave, etc.. I never saw this logic applied.
I’d like two more years. When they say get to the new Plano headquarters, it’ll be time to retire.
Funny how human nature is. The majority of people on this page (most of whom are most likely boot li---rs) totally dislike the FACT that union workers have recently got 2 years pay to retire.
Corporations often prefer layoffs with severance over voluntary separation packages because they want control over who leaves, not just how many people leave. Shocking concept, I know, but corporations generally prefer to make their own staffing decisions rather than let employees decide which ones are getting a paid exit.
- Control over talent: Voluntary packages may encourage the company's best and most experienced employees to leave. Apparently, letting employees decide who gets to walk away isn't exactly a brilliant workforce strategy.
- Predictable headcount reduction: Layoffs allow management to eliminate specific positions and departments rather than cross their fingers and hope the right people volunteer.
- Lower costs: Voluntary buyouts often require more generous financial incentives. Corporations generally don't hand out extra money simply because someone would prefer to leave.
- Organizational restructuring: Layoffs allow companies to eliminate redundant roles, consolidate departments, and reshape the workforce. The goal isn't just fewer employees; it's a different organizational structure.
- Reduced uncertainty: Voluntary programs can result in too many or too few employees leaving, potentially disrupting operations. Imagine that: employees might actually make decisions that benefit themselves rather than the company's staffing plan.
A company isn't necessarily interested in giving everyone an opportunity to collect a nice exit package. It wants to control who stays, who goes, which positions disappear, and how much it costs.
It's called workforce management, not a going-away party.
Don’t worry about trying to get on the surplus list. Since blue wave takes over, illegals will replace you anyway. You will be on the unemployment list very soon.
@ka Many Leg T CWA union workers have recently got the VTP up to 104 weeks pay.
No. If anyone wanted to be on a surplus list it would have already happened. But it’s easier to do nothing but vent on an online message board.
That package is never going to happen. It’s asked every quarter just about and the answer is always no, not happening ever again. You’ll get 6 months severance and that’s it. For all the union guys crowing about 104 weeks+ never happing, that’s why they let you have it. They will never pull the trigger on it, so you’ll drop dead on the job or cripple yourself before you get anything. Same goes for everyone else waiting for any kind of package. Best you are going to get is talk to your boss and ask to be on the list next layoff.
Won't happen, this isnt the early 2000's. Corporate has already run the numbers and know what buttons to push , RTO, 5x8, Dashboard metircs, they know the effect these policies are having on near retirees, and it obviously is working to a degree and then for the rest they'll just have regular layoffs. Why would the introduce a likely more expensive buyout solution?
bridge the service for people waiting for 75.
Not sure they really wouldn't gladly offer that if that was all it took. For most employees now, it means very little. Medical used to be the biggest benefit of that but with no subsidy, you get the honor of paying 100% if you even choose to buy into their plan. You can get phone service on your own cheaper than the retiree cell discount. And many don't even live in the fiber footprint to even get that.
Nobody wants to be paid to leave! Especially us Leg T CWA workers with over 31 years seniority who'd get 104 weeks pay to retire with pension, benefits and 401k while still being 10 to 15 years before social security eligible. We want to keep working for the rest of our lives. We praise Lord Stankme.
People under 55 be careful what you ask for
@ar manager here. If you have a good relationship with your manager he will work it out for you. Have the conversation so he knows what he can do. It usually saves someone who wants to stick around and is on the bubble through no fault of their own.
@ec
Leadership wouldn’t be able to control the mass exodus if this happened “one year salary for severance and bring back insurance for retirees that they can afford”. They know there would be too many people running for the door if that happened!
If they dangle a carrot. More than the expected number will go. 1 year severance or bridge the service for people waiting for 75. You will see people leaving in droves.. they will get their number and focus on work. But they won't
All they need to do is one year salary for severance and bring back insurance for retirees that they can afford. My salary is going to be less expensive than anyone they hire new out of college. Wouldn’t hurt them.
New week, same troll post. If anyone wanted to be on the surplus list, he or she would already have been on It and gone.
We only reward the bottom performers here at AT&T. They either get paid to leave or they get promoted for their posterior polishing skills. Everyone else we just try to make miserable enough to quit on their own. When they talk about culture and winning, this is what they mean.
Yes, told my boss I wouldn’t mind if I was on a list. Doesn’t seem like it is going to work. In sales org cases, they are going to naturally lose people instead of laying off. We can still hope
Everyone feels this way
You gotta ask “under the table”.
Leadership may not like that but folks who have to choose and deliver the message love informal volunteers.
This is FACT!!
get it through your thick skull , they frown on managers putting you on a list at your request for exit because if you exit on your own , they make bank...
I would take it too...it would be a great way to reduce headcount, ask for volunteers and offer them a full year's salary and definitely get down to the magic number they want
They won’t offer a “package to retire” because leadership knows too many people would be running for the door!