Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

201 types of managers = $2 billion/year

201 types of managers. 47 meetings. 19 approval chains. 12 PowerPoints.

1 technical guy doing the actual work. 💀

  1. Engineering Manager
  2. Senior Engineering Manager
  3. Software Development Manager
  4. Hardware Engineering Manager
  5. Technical Manager
  6. Systems Engineering Manager
  7. Infrastructure Manager
  8. Cloud Engineering Manager
  9. Network Engineering Manager
  10. Security Engineering Manager
  11. DevOps Manager
  12. Site Reliability Engineering Manager
  13. Quality Assurance Manager
  14. Test Engineering Manager
  15. Release Manager
  16. Configuration Manager
  17. Product Manager
  18. Senior Product Manager
  19. Group Product Manager
  20. Technical Product Manager
  21. Product Operations Manager
  22. Product Marketing Manager
  23. Product Development Manager
  24. Product Lifecycle Manager
  25. Product Portfolio Manager
  26. Project Manager
  27. Senior Project Manager
  28. Technical Project Manager
  29. IT Project Manager
  30. Engineering Project Manager
  31. Program Manager
  32. Senior Program Manager
  33. Technical Program Manager
  34. Engineering Program Manager
  35. Global Program Manager
  36. Strategic Program Manager
  37. Transformation Program Manager
  38. Portfolio Manager
  39. Delivery Manager
  40. Technical Delivery Manager
  41. Service Delivery Manager
  42. Agile Delivery Manager
  43. Scrum Manager
  44. PMO Manager
  45. Operations Manager
  46. Business Operations Manager
  47. Technical Operations Manager
  48. IT Operations Manager
  49. Network Operations Manager
  50. Cloud Operations Manager
  51. Data Center Operations Manager
  52. Security Operations Manager
  53. Sales Operations Manager
  54. Revenue Operations Manager
  55. Customer Operations Manager
  56. Customer Success Manager
  57. Customer Experience Manager
  58. Customer Support Manager
  59. Technical Support Manager
  60. Customer Service Manager
  61. Customer Engagement Manager
  62. Customer Relationship Manager
  63. Customer Escalation Manager
  64. Customer Advocacy Manager
  65. Account Manager
  66. Key Account Manager
  67. Strategic Account Manager
  68. Enterprise Account Manager
  69. Global Account Manager
  70. Partner Account Manager
  71. Channel Account Manager
  72. Sales Manager
  73. Regional Sales Manager
  74. Territory Sales Manager
  75. Enterprise Sales Manager
  76. Inside Sales Manager
  77. Business Development Manager
  78. Partner Development Manager
  79. Channel Development Manager
  80. Alliance Manager
  81. Strategic Alliance Manager
  82. Vendor Manager
  83. Supplier Relationship Manager
  84. Procurement Manager
  85. Supply Chain Manager
  86. Logistics Manager
  87. Inventory Manager
  88. Manufacturing Manager
  89. Production Manager
  90. Facilities Manager
  91. Workplace Manager
  92. Office Manager
  93. Administrative Manager
  94. Resource Manager
  95. Capacity Manager
  96. Workforce Manager
  97. Talent Acquisition Manager
  98. Recruitment Manager
  99. Human Resources Manager
  100. People Operations Manager
  101. Talent Management Manager
  102. Performance Management Manager
  103. Learning and Development Manager
  104. Training Manager
  105. Organizational Development Manager
  106. Change Management Manager
  107. Employee Experience Manager
  108. Employee Engagement Manager
  109. Compensation Manager
  110. Benefits Manager
  111. Payroll Manager
  112. Finance Manager
  113. Accounting Manager
  114. Financial Planning Manager
  115. Budget Manager
  116. Risk Manager
  117. Compliance Manager
  118. Audit Manager
  119. Governance Manager
  120. Legal Operations Manager
  121. Contract Manager
  122. Commercial Manager
  123. Pricing Manager
  124. Revenue Manager
  125. Marketing Manager
  126. Digital Marketing Manager
  127. Content Marketing Manager
  128. Brand Manager
  129. Campaign Manager
  130. Growth Marketing Manager
  131. Demand Generation Manager
  132. Field Marketing Manager
  133. Events Manager
  134. Communications Manager
  135. Public Relations Manager
  136. Community Manager
  137. Social Media Manager
  138. Data Analytics Manager
  139. Data Engineering Manager
  140. Data Science Manager
  141. Business Intelligence Manager
  142. Database Manager
  143. Data Governance Manager
  144. AI Engineering Manager
  145. Machine Learning Manager
  146. Automation Manager
  147. Innovation Manager
  148. Research and Development Manager
  149. Strategy Manager
  150. Corporate Strategy Manager
  151. Business Transformation Manager
  152. Digital Transformation Manager
  153. Process Improvement Manager
  154. Continuous Improvement Manager
  155. Knowledge Management Manager
  156. Incident Manager
  157. Problem Manager
  158. Change Manager
  159. Service Management Manager
  160. IT Service Manager
  161. Service Desk Manager
  162. Escalation Manager
  163. Crisis Management Manager
  164. Business Continuity Manager
  165. Disaster Recovery Manager
  166. Information Security Manager
  167. Cybersecurity Manager
  168. Identity and Access Management Manager
  169. Vulnerability Management Manager
  170. Threat Intelligence Manager
  171. Privacy Manager
  172. Enterprise Architecture Manager
  173. Solutions Engineering Manager
  174. Solutions Delivery Manager
  175. Customer Solutions Manager
  176. Technical Account Manager
  177. Customer Adoption Manager
  178. Customer Onboarding Manager
  179. Partner Success Manager
  180. Partner Operations Manager
  181. Regional Operations Manager
  182. Global Operations Manager
  183. Cross-Functional Program Manager
  184. Stakeholder Management Manager
  185. Executive Operations Manager
  186. Strategic Initiatives Manager
  187. Business Planning Manager
  188. Organizational Effectiveness Manager
  189. Corporate Development Manager
  190. Integration Manager
  191. Merger and Acquisition Integration Manager
  192. Global Services Manager
  193. Professional Services Manager
  194. Managed Services Manager
  195. Consulting Manager
  196. Implementation Manager
  197. Deployment Manager
  198. Migration Manager
  199. Transition Manager
  200. Relationship Manager
  201. Sales Enablement Manager
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by Anonymous
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Post ID: @OP+1m6p5dp8g
Comment! It's anonymous!

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@jf What I meant is there's a site accessible to you if you are a people leader (read: any manager, director, etc. plus any TL, PE, etc. with direct reports) that lets you look up every job title in any location (or all of them) for any grade, along with salary range for each. It's used to model pay increases, job changes, promotions, etc.

I suppose it's also possible to pull these from Workday if you're an IC, but the only place I know for certain you can get all this is from the manager-restricted site I mentioned above.

But the part about a good portion of these having manager in the name not being the managers you seem bent on railing against is absolutely true.

Also, while I'm here, you're right that managers can and will get LRd. I didn't mention There will be an org chart flattening that happens in the coming LR, and middle management (managers of managers, directors, maybe VPs, though I don't know for sure about that one) is a target.

by suomynona
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Post ID: @m1+1m6p5dp8g

@gp haha found the "as a leader" . A "leader". Haha you mean excel chart maker? Automatable leader?

People "managers" are frauds and will get LR. Scroll down on this board to find "people manager is the easiest job" post.

by Anonymous
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Post ID: @jf+1m6p5dp8g

@a5 That's a pretty easy list to put together if you are a people leader. Unfortunately for @OP, they aren't quite bright enough to realize not all those titles are people leader positions.

by suomynona
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Post ID: @gp+1m6p5dp8g

@f1 you got it

by Anonymous
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Post ID: @gh+1m6p5dp8g

Looks like a money laundering scheme

by Whot
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Post ID: @f1+1m6p5dp8g

Bruh, if the ICs were just better at their jobs, Cisco wouldn't need all those managers.

But low key genuinely as the kids say, only ~15 of those are actual people leader roles. The overwhelming majority are IC roles with the word 'manager'.

by Anonymous
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Post ID: @bw+1m6p5dp8g

@aa wtf are these titles.
In fact most sound like things created just to create nonexistent jobs. Sending emails is not a real job.

When Twitter got taken over by Elon, changed to X and 90% managers just managing to get by were gone, it functioned just fine.

by Anonymous
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Post ID: @ac+1m6p5dp8g

@a5 right? obviously anyone successful must be on LinkedIn! /s

by Anonymous
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Post ID: @ab+1m6p5dp8g

Critical account manager
High touch manger

by Anonymous
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Post ID: @aa+1m6p5dp8g

:-))))
How did you extract those ? Are they all Cisco titles (I mean in use at Cisco)?
These days if they want to put you in charge with something they slap a manager particle to your title and you are hooked. Not translated into a salary increase, obviously, but hey you get the glory and the LinekedIn attention when you update your title. That should suffice.

by Anonymous
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