I joined this year and got an IM mid year. I think I will probably get another im. How long would I probably last before I get fired? Would I be able to stay at least until next year?
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I was once fired at CIC 2A2 in the mens room - stall 2, during SVB's AMA.
If WF is going to fire you they will do it by the end of November. If they do it before December they don’t have to pay you your 401k match
You may have been hired to be the sacrificial lamb anyway. That way the team is not affected. Start looking.
He-l yes
@OP, You are not starting out very well. You don't tell us why you are getting the IMs. Is there a legitimate reason? Regardless there is an HR process of improving your performance.
They do not need a formal PIP any longer. The manager can simply enter actions needed in workday and use that for check-ins with the employee. Eventually that is sufficient to terminate people for cause. Don't believe that you need some song and dance around a pip to be placed on a warning that will result in termination.
If they just want to reduce your bonus and give it to the Indian employees, then you're fine.
If they want to reduce the head count, then you will be gone soon.
If they just want to reduce your bonus and give it to the Indian employees, then you're fine.
If they want to reduce the head count, then you will be gone soon.
@cz you can look it up on HRSS.
@c8 what does the informal warning look like?
Pathetic. Get a better job outside of WF.
@c4 in the US there’s no such thing as a PIP anymore. Informal warning, Formal warning, termination. Can skip the informal and go straight to formal.
you need to be put on a PIP to get fired
i know someone that was IM 3 years and only got laid off with package this year
The reality of our culture is, if they want to get rid you they'll either find or make up and excuse soon enough. It's a matter of time. If your groups leader isn't looking for sacrificial lambs right now, then an IM is no big deal really. Many long term employees have had one. So long as there's no recurrence, I wouldn't worry about it.
If you were going to be fired for the one IM, they would have put you on a formal warning with a short time to “cure”.
If you get a second - you will likely be fired 1Q next year
Well did you get the IM because you werent working the schedule expected or was it performance based? If youre new and got one for performance you may be OK but if you got one because I you WFH every day and haven't changed that fact then youre a goner.
ignore the problems until theres no one else internally to hand to
A new hire getting an IM is not necessarily a bad thing. It's reasonable to think that a new hire is still learning the job. During performance calibrations, it's a hard sell to justify a new external hire coming in and being at the same competency as someone who has been here for a long time.
Nothing against a new hire, but it takes a long time to even know which form or group to use when you have a problem, need access to something, etc.
If you also feel you aren't meeting expectations and you aren't making progress to improve, then dismissal might be a possibility next year.
@ag other companies? happens here too.
happens most w whistleblowers at other companies
Yes. But adios in Feb if you get another IM