I tried playing hardball with my manager last month and it didn't go the way I'd hoped. I walked in ready to threaten leaving if they wouldn't bump my pay, but I didn't actually have another offer lined up. My manager basically called my bluff on the spot, told me if I wasn't happy I knew where the door was, and now things between us are awkward as he-l.
What are my chances of being outright fired over this?
I'd fire you for your stupidity, not your arrogance.
If getting let go were that easy three quarters of your coworkers still here would be gone yesterday. What you will get is on a list not to be offered severance because you can be pushed out with bad reviews and doubled up work loads and do all the sh-t jobs until then. You will not get a raise and the bonus will be deliberately insulting.
@OP lol. People have recovered from much worse and btw, nobody is secure in this environment.
Collect yourself, rehearse an “apology” (but be genuine) and keep rebuilding any lost rapport. Just play the game as long as you need to and land somewhere else (or stay if you’re so inclined and things return to normal). Most people are forgiving by nature.
I went to hr a couple times due to pay issues and was given rather significant increases after they said they couldn’t do it a could times. They eventually agreed. I know this is not common, they did not let me go or treat me unfairly afterward. It’s a risk but can work out.
I actually tried this when I had an offer in hand and I went to our executive and said "listen I love the work I do here but I have an offer for promotion in another team still inside the bank" and their response was "well what we're not going to do is match that offer but we can talk about how to get you there if you stay in our department." I said now that I know where you stand i can confidently accept the offer.
Just tell 'em you were completely stressed because Ichabod Crane was chasing you with the Headless Horseman's pumpkin and you blurted out the conversation involuntarily.
Silly Rabbit.
@ak that ain't true either. Some situations call for it. I know someone that just did this and got a decent raise/promotion. Granted they had another offer in hand.
Most of the times, people over okay their hand or think they are more important than they think. Corporations think that anyone is replaceable, so you need to keep that in mind when making demands.
Take it from me, someone who definitely isn't an HR troll: never ask for a raise or exert leverage over the firm!
He called your bluff you lose. Increases are in Feb yours will be 0. He’ll allocate $ to people staying
You only threaten to leave if you're actually going to leave. Just like sales, cars, house, etc.
I would have fired you for being stupid. You don't go in making threats and not be ready to pull the trigger or counter back.
The way this should have gone is, you went back to your desk, sent an email stating today was your last day because you got an offer at XYZ and walked out.
Stay in your lane...
OP always gives it away with the sitcom-cliche understanding of corporate life and the eyerolling melodramatic titles. Like he’s writing into dear abby 😂
Brilliant move by OP to retain his job a little longer. If they think you're looking to leave on your own, you may not get downsized. Shart thinks he can avoid paying severance. GJ.
This is just more weird corporate fan fiction that never happened.
@a3 Depending on your relationship prior to this - AND that's important because if your relationship was already on the rocks, you might not be heard - you're done. Stressing this because you didn't answer my question. Be honest with yourself - what I'm suggesting could speed your exit if it goes the wrong way.
...I would schedule 15 minutes to clear the air. Position it as a human reaction to feeling underappreciated (paid) - you already brought up pay, own it. I wouldn't say anything about being the top performer. Instead, ask what you can do to stretch. Regardless of the outcome memorialize the conversation. Good Luck!
you work for a CEO that wants to lay off thousands of people. what do you think is gonna happen?
@a2 I'm one of our highest performers and I was told so by him, which is why I was caught off guard by his reaction.
@OP High confidence you have put a target on your back - but you might be able to turn things around...Absent this misstep what was your relationship like? what's the quality of your work?
You will definitely be on the list when its time for cuts. You painted a target on your back