Thread regarding Verizon Communications Inc. layoffs

I disagree with many of the posts here. I've been here a LONG time (decades) and have seen them hold off on relasing people dealing with cancer until they were cleared by their docs. Now, that might sound bad, but 20 years ago a teammate was cut the day after he got a clear scan. VZ announced a few years ago that they (and other companies) were going to be more cancer friendly. I have seen evidence they did this, from one woman with a very complex cancer situation where they kept her for 2 years and another undergoing PT after a nasty (intense) mastectomy and chemo... they wouldn't release her for about 6 Mos u til cleared by her doc. It did affect her redeployment 28 days, but she was still covered for insurance and had a paycheck. This is one area where I think they've improved.

@DP Meetings cake, cookies, pizza, everything ask for healthy food, like fruit management's objective to make workers sick and off payroll surfaces.

@VP Consider that all medical records claims can be seen by VZ for payment why does this surprise you.

I feel the really sad part about this chat (and I have seen everything you all are describing) is that people who have gone through some medical crisis with a company standing behind them, end up being the most loyal and productive workers. This also applies to older, 45+, workers.

On the other hand, someone who doesn't have this dependency or experience of support, are more prone to half a-s their job and leave at the next best offer. HR knows this but Accountants and C Suite only look at immediate numbers.

like most corps there is plausible deniability by using outside consultants

employees get cost scores. Comp can't technically layoff due to health but they can have an overall cost score relative to the industry and if it is too high they are higher in the list

know many people that simply won't go to doctor because they've seen peers let go shortly after they started needing more medical support - in other words they cost more

I know more than one associate let go shortly after the started needing things like chemo even though they were too performers and others on team not impacted.

the old idea of social contract with an employer is out the window. You are nothing more than a line on a cost/benefit analysis

Pretty confident that this is illegal but knowing how petty the company is becoming (thanks to Dan) it might just happen

They do this all the time. Seen it first hand. They get away with it. Just need someone to step up and challenge it and hopefully win.

Yes, it's done all the time in large corporations where they can make it difficult and/or costly to prove. I was one of only two people let go years ago at TMO in a regional "re-org" just after heavily using the health insurance for my child after 10+ years of essentially not using it at all.

I can attest that two of my coworkers who were cut suffer from chronic illnesses. They were also close in age.

I'd say this is extremely unlikely to be happening in any kind of widespread way. The $ risk of discovery far outweighs any $ gain of doing so.

100% yes

So - message to the @OP - as you can see here, we got confirmation that you are correct. The red brigade comrades just confirmed us. You did hit a nerve with the oligarchs. The following rebadging is also going to offload the "burden" of providing healthcare.

I would never put it past these spineless people that make the decisions.

Not sure bout that but my coworker was on short term disability during one the past layoffs. They let her go three hours into her shift on the first day she returned a couple of months later. That was cold AF. She had just called me to say she was excited to be back and was feeling much better. I was waiting for her to join a meeting a little later when my phone blew up with you ain't gonna believe what just happened.

Absolutely, yes. However, this is extremely hard to prove.
From having chronic illness, cancer, expensive treatments, or even a baby recently... etc. this is definitely a factor in the score for one to get cut.

A marketing head said he is on GLP-1.

that’s not legal but who knows