Thread regarding U.S. Bank layoffs

I'm new here.. does 6 hours count? I've been getting in exactly 8. But did have one day this week where I left after 5.5 - does that day still count?

Trying to figure out minor holes for my one-off days where I don't get 8 hours, not "cheat the system"... honestly, USB has it easy compared to WF!

@pc if they go the 6+ hours route they're going to end up firing a lot of people. Like a LOT. I know many people with kids that are less than 6 because of kid pickup and dropoff times. If school dropoff is at 8, you have an hour commute, and pickup is at 3 (most of the time it's more like 2:30) that person cannot spend 6+ hours therefore their day wouldn't ever count.

I don't have actual information... But I highly doubt RTO will be relaxed. If anything it will keep ramping up. I think the next step is tracking actual time in the office. Like a day only counts if you're there 6+ hours or something like that. We're back to the office, there's just no getting around it at this point.

@av they'll never revert back to an as-needed basis.

There is literally no benefit for most of us, because we go into an office to work remotely with our teams and partners. They diversified their hiring strategy over a decade ago, and started hiring people remote, and not in the same locations as their teams, because we couldn't fill positions within the preferred markets the jobs were listed in.

They keep acting like this hybrid/remote deal is from COVID times, it's not. It far pre-dates it. All of the banks are working together to make sure we don't have better options anywhere. USB is likely keeping their rto strategy flexible because they know it's the only way they get any talent. Whether it will stay that way or not, I have legitimately no idea. I think they will axe remote workers before we transition to 5 days, and then after they've whittled down the remote workforce they'll tighten the in-office noose again. There's no benefit to it outside of making employees miserable so they quit. The benefit is us leaving.

@ac Regarding what you wrote, copied below, that is the result of the divisive environment that the “leadership” of the current MC fosters.

“ There are also employees who are on this site to share the information others do not have available to them, in an effort to help others, only to be accused of being fake, liars, or members of the MC by the same employees who come here looking for answers”

If returning back to the office is the new standard, will it apply to everyone? I know some people who live within a hub and do not go in to the office. I wonder if they're exempt because they are in the upper limits of the pay scale? If that is the case, that's totally unfair. Wouldn't it make sense to change the RTO requirements to an "as needed" basis? I'm not sure what the real benefits of 3-5 days per week of RTO are.

Relaxing expectations to go back to pre-pandemic ways? I wish. On the contrary, you can expect heat and motion sensors under the desks coming your way instead. It will, of course, be under the guise of something other than obsessively monitoring us but we all know better by now. "The beatings will continue until morale improves" has really become the new slogan.

Remote employees will probably have to get near a hub next year or be laid off like what they are doing with JRs org.

@a2 Not true. Some employees read the information that is readily available to everyone in the company, which the majority of employees ignore, expect to be spoonfed, and then baselessly argue against and downvote. Most of the topics raised on this site wouldn't need to be brought up if those employees had any sense of self-preservation and chose to be informed instead of wilfully ignorant.

There are also employees who are on this site to share the information others do not have available to them, in an effort to help others, only to be accused of being fake, liars, or members of the MC by the same employees who come here looking for answers.

TL;DR - If you're going to assume everyone here is a liar and that you're better informed, don't bother asking questions here.

Reversing RTO will not be happening under the current MC.

Regarding wanting to know "if IP tracking will become retroactive," retroactive tracking is irrelevant, as they have already addressed expectations for compliance with the in-office requirement as it relates to the change that took place in April.

The "Working in the office: In-office attendance and reporting (Global)" article FAQs in MyHR states:

"Q. Am I held to the 'more than 60% in-office' expectation for Q1 2026 if the updated measurement approach didn't take effect until Q2 2026?

A. Yes, as the expectation of working three-plus days in the office was established and communicated over 12 months ago."

Reason being that three-plus Total Possible Working Days in office each week in January, February, and March (not Adjusted Possible Working Days) averages at more than 60% and would have been achieved by employees following the three-plus-days-per-week expectation for Q1.

This isn't opinion or preference or bootlicking, just math.

Regarding "if IP tracking will become ... enforced," it is already being enforced. Employees have already been let go due to lack of compliance with the requirement.

Regarding "if more days will be required" for being in office, the answer is yes.

It's painfully obvious that we are following the lead of larger banks who have RTO guidelines that are worse than ours. Asking about it over and over again is not going to change anything.

It is what it is. I don't like the direction it's heading but for my own sanity I don't even think about RTO anymore.

"I want to know ..." yeah and I want a billion dollars. Neither of us are getting it so let's drop the attitude. Learn to be polite and ask kindly (drop the caps), as a request. No one owes you anything.

No one on here will have FACTUAL information on this site. Would suggest to try not to obsess over RTO and when or if they change the rules adjust and adapt.