Thread regarding Canon Inc. layoffs

A message to Senior Leadership

The current situation at Canon USA is becoming increasingly difficult for employees and sales teams alike. After rounds of layoffs and staffing reductions, the employees who remain are being asked to take on more responsibilities, more work, and more stress—without seeing meaningful compensation for the additional burden. At some point, continually asking fewer people to do more becomes unsustainable.
The sales organization is facing its own serious challenges. Rising costs in both hardware and service have driven the overall cost of doing business higher, resulting in products and solutions that are increasingly difficult to sell at a competitive price. Salespeople are then put in the position of having to discount deals simply to get them across the finish line, sacrificing much of the margin and profit potential in the process. It becomes a frustrating cycle: prices go up, customers push back, discounts increase, and salespeople are left with fewer opportunities to make a meaningful profit.

Then leadership wonders why employees are burned out, morale is low, and people don't want to work.

The consequences are already becoming apparent. People are leaving, and it is becoming increasingly difficult to replace them. When experienced employees walk out the door and the company struggles to attract qualified replacements, the workload and pressure on those who remain only increases—creating an even bigger cycle of burnout and turnover.

Canon USA needs to recognize that this is more than an employee morale issue. It is a business issue. If the company continues down the same path without addressing staffing, compensation, pricing, sales profitability, and employee workload, the road ahead could become very dark.

Employees want to succeed. Salespeople want to sell profitable solutions. Customers want competitive value. Those goals are not mutually exclusive—but they require leadership to make meaningful changes before more good people decide that the best option is to leave


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Post ID: @OP+1m0f8n333

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@2a4 what was the purpose of the clown show I mean sales summit, especially if they are about to lay off sales reps?

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Post ID: @58f+1m0f8n333

@3ee always document and contest. Save files to your local desktop and then save them again to usb sticks off company hardware, and throwaway emails (I recommend Proton; free, works like gmail, and encrypted).
remember this mantra; if you think you need it, you need it; if you don't think you need it, you need it.

They will lie about your kpi/kras anyways and conspire with HR to do so. HR is not your friend, they are employed to protect the company from YOU. That is why you should save your previous employee evaluations and email them to yourself, document all conversations (especially verbal), and start getting friendly with your local union chapter, labor lawyer, and state's attorney general. more's the merrier.

Surveillance works both ways, and management is outnumbered.

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Post ID: @3f4+1m0f8n333

@39p Only way to neutralize them is mention your contributions in your reviews. It puts certain people on notice you’re prepared to dispute them if they attempt to create a false narrative. About the only leverage one has. Nail them with documentation!

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Post ID: @3ee+1m0f8n333

@1ag don’t worry they will say your kpis are low even though they are good. Impossible to win here internally.

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Post ID: @39p+1m0f8n333

@2em - If that is true, I give kudos to all the folks in Atlanta. Why MO can think he can implement these changes and not have to deal with employee retention is beyond me.

Now let’s see if he is true to his word. If he is truly wanting to build WTS, build that branch back up. If he sells off to the dealerships we should all call out sick one day to voice our displeasure with the constant lies from MO.

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Post ID: @2gc+1m0f8n333

@2a4 Well, I hate to break the bad news to management and HR, but if they let people go, denying unemployment benefits because a person didn’t meet sales targets won’t hold water.

Personally hope those former employees disputed the PIPs when they surprised them, documented previous performance reviews. Armed with the goods, an employment attorney will have a field day holding Canon’s feet to the fire. Judges will see patterns of willful and malicious intent and there’s a strong chance that former employee will get a nice pay day.

Take them to court and sue!

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Post ID: @2f9+1m0f8n333

@2c0 from what I heard, nearly all WTS outside reps in the Georgia office were either let go or resigned in response to the cuts, the entire division is basically gutted and barely exists.

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Post ID: @2em+1m0f8n333

@2a4 What happened in Georgia?

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Post ID: @2c0+1m0f8n333

Unfortunately, it's the sales teams that are likely to experience large RIFs first (and it's already happening, just look at Georgia). The outlandish quotas compared to last year are the first step, then the well-publicized PIP announcements to avoid the dreaded "layoff". It's a designed plan to convince people to leave on their own or to manufacture artificial "cause" when letting someone go. Even if you have growth over 2025, the quota was designed to ensure failure and limit commission payout. My own September quota has a 20% increase year-over-year, and I know many others seeing the same thing. So convenient right at the end of Q3. They want you to fail so they can let you go and limit separation agreements.

Combine all that with the fact that the vendor pool gets more lump stock than the OEM manufacturer while we sit there watching the back-order list, and you have a recipe for moving huge swathes of direct sales to the vender pool. Just as MO intended, while Canon uses all those headcount funds to invest in semiconductors and IT solutions (SK mentioned as much at the 2026 kickoff meeting).

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Post ID: @2a4+1m0f8n333

@16d surprised we haven’t seen a new post about this topic. Sales reps are probably in fear.

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Post ID: @261+1m0f8n333

@fj did you hear this from your managers? This information is reliable, but hasn’t been announced.

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Post ID: @260+1m0f8n333

It’s so nice to get those notifications on the 1st of each month about which expats are coming and going, as if anybody outside their inner-circle knows who they are.

#IDontCare #AutoDelete

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Post ID: @22t+1m0f8n333

@1x5 What’s management doing? Enabling corruption, and don’t be surprised they’re getting payola on the side.

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Post ID: @20e+1m0f8n333

@1az dealers also scream and cry about “rules of engagement” yet they break those exact rules against us daily. What is management doing to audit and hold accountability towards the rule breakers?

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Post ID: @1x5+1m0f8n333

@1ag Dealers are scam artists. They always undercut reps in the field who do the heavy lifting and the buyer turns around and goes to a dealer and says, "Can you beat this?". If they go that route and shaft you out of a deal, bet smart money that customer will call you asking for tech help. Let them get your voicemail. And say and do nothing.

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Post ID: @1az+1m0f8n333

I have been in this industry for years and getting a new job is not in my future. Not because I am happy at Canon but more so due to my age. Companies simply won’t hire anyone my age unless they are desperate.

I hate to say it but we are all sitting ducks. I have seen this before. I am not going to mention where I worked but this “wait and see” approach they are taking with WTS is simply all part of the plan. They will push everything to the dealers to try and see if they can reduce the size of WTS. Simple logic, let them handle the sales, logistics, and service and then they can reduce the WTS footprint.

For me, I can retire tomorrow if I wanted to. Why would I? I barely do anything f anyway. I work on a couple deals a month, make a couple bucks, and move on. I will never be low enough for a letter and I will be viewed as someone who contributes.

It is sad though how this company treats their employees. I feel bad for the younger generation because Canon is a good company but they have turned their back on WTS. Let me get back to sipping my pina colada by the lake.

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Post ID: @1ag+1m0f8n333

@ev even when we give every discount and the highest warchest dollars, we still lose to “partners” that win with our own branded Canon equipment.

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Post ID: @16e+1m0f8n333

@bh the more I hear about the sales summit weeks the worse it gets.

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Post ID: @16d+1m0f8n333

@xa We better let Deloitte know about this right away! I’m sure the auditors will want to know what is included in that “miscellaneous amount” account ;)

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Post ID: @yq+1m0f8n333

@t4 enjoy sitting on a cactus 🌵 and may travel up your dirt road

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Post ID: @v7+1m0f8n333

@kh and enjoy sitting on a cactus 🌵

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Post ID: @v6+1m0f8n333

@kh don't threaten me with a good discount. Besides Canon has already been discounting the sales and pricing teams of headcount, we could all benefit from a bit of thriftiness, since Canon won't.

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Post ID: @t4+1m0f8n333

@hn enjoy living in some run down house because you barely make enough money to get by. Again, we don’t care if you quit. We want you to quit. Enjoy shopping at the clearance rack at Marshall’s for the rest of your life.

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Post ID: @kh+1m0f8n333

@he You must be why Canon suddenly posted the new Employment Counsel position on the career page.
Good... I smell fear, rebellion, and lawsuits in your future. Enjoy the chair like your own backside... full while it lasts.
Go sit on a cactus while you're at it 🌵

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Post ID: @hn+1m0f8n333

A company that repeatedly flunks its audits is not one I want to be a part of. They make Enron and WorldCom look like saints. They need to go back to school and learn about the Sarbanes-Oxley Act & GAAP.

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Post ID: @h9+1m0f8n333

@bh Tell that manager their thinking is old, it has grown whiskers and definitely qualifies for Social Security. That manager operates in the past.

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Post ID: @fx+1m0f8n333

I heard from a trusted source that my team is losing colleges and large businesses soon. That is literally the only upside potential I have to make money here. Another wasted exercise by management that is going to destroy the branch I work at. Can’t hit quote selling one machine at a time. Sorry.

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Post ID: @fj+1m0f8n333

These posts carry a common theme: the message Canon USA is to make life unbearable that they force you to leave. This is the new strategy. You quit and they don't pay unemployment or severance. If you can find a replacement job that pays more, has a decent workplace culture, go for it. And flip Canon the bird on the way out. They are predators.

For those who are stuck because of personal reasons which don't have to be disclosed, utilize your PTO and call EAP on company time. If you feel compelled and if it does any good, and if you have proof, blow management into their ethics hotline. It time for management to feel the heat, and by all means, do the absolute bare minimum. In your interactions with management, ignore them. Don't talk with them. Pretend you didn't hear anything from them. Ignore their emails. Say it went into spam. And if you need to use the bathroom, take your time and enjoy the go. And put them into perspective when doing so because that's how low employees feel about management and work conditions.

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Post ID: @ez+1m0f8n333

I am not burnt out. I am more upset the company plays off they are doing us a favor by letting us discount the product. As if we want to discount it and make no money.

Salaries are too low to make 2% overrides. I can’t upgrade or land new business unless I discount it. At the same time we are suppose to look at the concept of warchest as blessing. In reality, we wouldn’t sell anything if we didn’t have it.

No way to run a sales organization.

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Post ID: @ev+1m0f8n333

i just spent 3 days at a sales summit where a majority of the sales people I spoke to stated they are looking to leave.

The idea that one of the presentations was about me cold calling for 16 hours to sell an overpriced product that I will make 2% on, no thank you.

Canon wants to have their cake and eat it to. They simply want you to work for free and then have the ba--s to tell us how much warchest they have provided. Hey Canon, if you didn’t give us the “funny money” you wouldn’t have the sale.

I don’t think for one second this company is doing bad. I just think they are not cleaning house like they used to. The idea that they are creating this culture will hurt them. Once again, a guy who hasn’t cold called in 30 years telling me I need to cold call for 16 hours should retire if he truly thinks this.

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