Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

Don’t go in for 8 hours. They can’t fire all of us. There is power in numbers.

So here’s what happens with my colleague in the office/ when we meet we do it in teams because the other five people on the call are in different offices. Cool. In office works so well. Can I bring a mouse jiggler into the office?

Hello everybody I am reaching out the community for help because of relatiation and disrimnification I experienced last October in the cafeteria, I was trying to use the soft serve ice cream machine and the ice cream was gritty like there was sand. This was the vanilla the chocolate was fine.
When I tried to complain and explain its usually is more creamie the manager told me to leave and some of the rude casheir was laughing and some was hiding under tables. Two female security guard was arriving when I left but they both about 400 lbs, I don't remember they name but pretty sure both name start with La-something. Im only about 300 lbs so went up some steps they couldnt follow and then I stopped to have some Little Debbie snack cakes. I called HR to complain and they kept transferring and putting me on hold. How you going to put this on hold. Dairy Queen have a restraining order on me so Im stuck with this machine for sustenances and this is no way to treat a lady. Please respond or forward this Service Request to the correct department. Thank you and have a blessed day.

Shameful to put this out just before the annual appraisals. With zero notice. guess it will auto generate the performance warnings in Workday. They just want to get rid of US folks who cannot stay chained to their seats for 8 hrs asap.

@bb this. I’m so over the rumor mill. It’s like we are in high school. Just be honest and upfront about everything instead of piecemealing it out.

@bc senior managers said this exact same thing back in the spring and nothing has happened. Are they just trying to make people panic and look for new jobs?

From what we were told by our senior managers on the all staff call, they don’t even have a report for tracking the 8 hours in office yet. They confirmed all they have access to see is badge in/badge out days. That doesn’t mean a report isn’t coming at some point, but it seems asinine and short sighted to implement a new policy like this immediately without the capability to even track it.

From what I recall it took them at least 6 months to a year after the RTO announcement to fully implement and distribute access to the RTO days report, at least for my LOB.

Do with that information what you will.

This place is a toxic wasteland.

They can’t even get their sh-t together to announce these changes to everyone at the same time. They need to grow a pair and send out an enterprise wide email like the professionals they are asking us to be. Instead they are slowly letting managers get the word out while rumors fly.

Why are all RTO announcements through word of mouth and nothing in writing?

Honestly at this point you can go ahead and manage me out, I know how long and hard of a process it is. I’m not quitting and I’m not going into the office 8 hours a day. You want to make my life hard, I’ll make your life hard too.

Did they say what happens if you don’t go into the office 8 hours a day?

What makes you think Sr Mgrs pushing back would change anything? Everyone’s expendable. If you can’t do your job—including following your leaders’ orders—you’re out, plain and simple. A replacement will step in and execute, no questions asked, or they’ll be gone too. The cycle doesn’t stop. If you think Sr Mgrs have it cushy and should be your personal shield, then quit slacking, ditch the coffee badging, stop whining, and start delivering results. Prove your worth, make their lives easier, and maybe—just maybe—they’ll have a reason to back you up. Otherwise, pack your bags. Your lazy, unproductive attitude isn’t wanted here.

5 years, it’s gotten a bit worse every year, and now seemingly every day. People on my team, high performers with years of service, are now in the “f this place” mindset. Teammates who have never said a peep negative about anything, including leadership, have had it and are looking.

At what cost exactly? Based on my salary and LOS, I calculated my package would be about $115,000, including unused PTO. As is usually the case around here, it’s day to day decisions and live for the moment. I know full well that recruiting and training costs will exceed that amount.

And good luck with scouring Minneapolis, Des Moines, even Charlotte for top talent. Just ridiculous.

@ar you must be new. You will learn.

@am+1k5yhtyph

Coffee badging is completely irrelevant in their decision making. All that matters is how many are voluntarily quiting. If that number isn't high enough, they make it a shittier place to work and high five each other as the numbers start to go up again. HR does not give a flying F if you are in the office. They want to downsize the domestic workforce. Outsource and contract it all...and you think they want us sitting in a building? Wrong. They want us there zero hours a day, zero days a week, forever. That's the reality of the situation. Everything else they spew on this subject is a lie which is, again, intentionally designed to tank morale and chase people off. That's all this have ever been about, and will ever be about.

LOL This post highlights how the layoffs were not targeted to keep the better employees.

Can’t wait to retire next year. I wish they’d just lay me off. Yeah we got word on this too. More attention to 3 days a week in office and amount of hours in the office. And tracking app usage - bc supposedly people might be coming in but they’re not doing anything.

I’m exempt. Why the f@@k does it matter how many hours I’m in the office? Does the work get done? I sit in an area and don’t know anybody and nobody I work with is in my city. Oh and I went from a nice manager cube precovid to an unassigned shoe box.

And what the f@@k are those of us on the west coast supposed to do when east coast schedules meetings at 6 or 7.

F@@k this company.

@OP 😁😁😁😁😁😁. Tracking mouse movement for clicks that’s hilarious. Unfortunately that’s Wells Fargo way. It’s a shame they have to rely on this style of micro management from management who have so much time on their hands. Kinda like that my nosy neighbor going through my garbage stash 😁😁Focus on SWOT Analysis and trust your employees to get the work done.

You need advance notice to be told a working day is 8 hours? This is all thanks to the coffee badging crowd who made it impossible for the execs to ignore. We had it good and ruined it

What does the 8 hours mean? Is it an average? We are claiming flexibility, right? So as long as my work week is 40+ hours, it should be fine?

Maybe LOB dependent. My management chain hasn’t said anything about any number of hours.

F their offices. HY is he-l bent to drive attrition. Soon they will say 12 hours, 7 days a week.

@aa in-office guidance for managers of U.S. based employees source teamworks

Be sure to block your calendar off after the eight hours of your normal working schedule!!!

Heard the same thing from a manager today who told her team it was just sprung on her with no notice. Just bam! 8 hours in the office effective immediately regardless of how your actual work gets done and the fact that you don't face WF employees or customers in banks or any type of Admin site.

In fact many or most of us go in the office and sit with people who have nothing to do with our day to day work. There is nothing to collaborate on. We have no clue nor the time or inclination to collaborate. Oh and you can't have an assigned seat either you chattle that's reserved for a criteria to be determined later.

Didn't Charlie himself just say he didn't care as long as the work got done?

So now go into the office for 8 hours and if your job demands time outside of 8 to 5, which many do, regularly, "we'll review those on a one off basis".

Got young kinds - f you pay me.
Got work that can only be done after 6 or 9PM - f you pay me.

Got to do change paperwork for something that should be easy but the rules of engagement change every 5 minutes with 1276 different places to go and check for updated rules and procedures? - F you pay me.

All of this while we spend every day wondering if the next Tuesday after payday will be our last with the bank - for the last 5 years.

Tell me you want me frustrated enough to quit so you don't have to pay severance without saying you want me frustrated enough to quit so you don't have to pay severance.

More #wellsfargoshitshow

My boss is fully remote and rolled this out to our team this week. The f-ing irony…..

Got told this today as well, no notice, just start doing it right away. The message came from our direct manager, not even the department heads.

Did this happen on a call? I’ve heard nothing except rumors

Yay we showed up for work. Talk about being treated like a child. It’s infuriating

@a5 which is crazy.. talk about not questioning what your boss is saying. Do they not understand how much money they would save having remote employees? Or the talent pool we could have!!

@a5 Yeah it's kind of pathetic to hear all these senior managers above me on the call complaining about how much they hate this policy, how they know none of us like it, but none of them have the spine to push back against the policy

Managers response “yes master”

Managers response.. “yes master”

Just for me to be back in for 8 hours with people not working.. going down to the cafeteria for breakfast, lunch, dinner and watching Netflix. I rather be in 4-6 hours, go home on my lunch time and not listen to all these people chit chat.

If we are going back to old days (before Covid) give me my assigned seating back. Such BS.

Oh wait… we eliminated most administrative duties so who will keep up with all these people and assigned seating? Ugh.

Got told 6 hours last week at a meeting and then this notice today… talk about communication issues with one another and the people making the decision.

We started doing 4 days in the office and we are not even client based.. so yeah, it’s coming they just don’t want to say.

One way to make people quit.. what a s*** show.