So I’m on the Medicare UM centralization team and there was just a meeting under our associate directors teams where the manager makes a comment that we’re expected to know these policies they’re just reminding us of these policies that are in place, but none of them are in writing. Can you please explain that to me? How is something not in writing for how we’re supposed to do something. We’re just somehow supposed to know that we’re supposed to go to this really hard place that they call mentor to get instructions, but there aren’t any instructions on how exactly to apply what it says there but somehow we’re just supposed to know and we’re accountable for it but they’re not gonna put it in writing for how to do it make it make sense oh wait maybe it’s because if they don’t put it in writing then they’re not accountable for it and then they can use it as an excuse to lay off nurses? I mean, make it make sense folks, not in writing how do you have policy and not put it in writing and then tell an entire group of people they were expected to do it and understand it and remember how to use it but they’re not putting it in writing. I don’t know why I even stay anymore. Oh wait that’s right. I’m actively looking for a job and this is why. And then she makes this comment about how they know we centralized a year ago and things will probably change again next week, but we’re just now figuring it out. It’s been a year folks. What the heck do you mean you’re just now figuring it out. I probably need to look a little harder for a new job because this was so discouraging. I feel so set up for failure and I know other people on my team do now as well.
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UNION UNION UNION UNION!!!
@a4 i’m curious why anyone would think of union would work. Maybe I’m missing something. This is actually a very serious question. If there’s not enough work, the union isn’t gonna pass us and there’s not enough work. Yes the managers are a--holes. I agree they don’t know what they’re doing. There’s no doubt they’re making it miserable so people will just quit so they don’t have to have a layoff but the bottom line is there’s not enough work for the amount of nurses we have so what can a union do about that?
@x3 the last time I talked about unions they had a layoff
@wz Yeah, we really need a UNION!
We need to start talking about that again.
@wn It kind of su-ks that it seems like the company holds all the cards. They have more than enough (extra) nurses for epic training, which helps the company. But if not enough members enroll, then some nurses get laid off.
Seems like the employees should hold some of the cards; a give and take relationship.
I don’t know, maybe we do and just don’t realize it. And if not maybe we need to see if things could be changed for future employees. I don’t know, maybe a union, for example.
@k0 you misunderstanding what they said. You were not told that there would not be layoffs at all. What they said was we are overstaffed but that right now that’s OK because having extra staff during epic training will be helpful. What they said was they’re waiting to see how many new members we have during open enrollment they never said there wouldn’t be a layoff there will be, but they’ll continue to do it the way they have been a team here a team there a department here department there don’t misunderstand what they said though because you want to feel safe make your decisions with open eyes. Epic has been delayed until what March April? So what’s going to happen if we don’t get enough new members in January it might be that they still keep people on until epic training is finished. It might be they’ll let everyone go if they don’t let them go then after epic training, people will be let go.
@kq the leaders have been making the same mistakes for years. It’s the same group of people for at least the last 3 to 5 years. It’s only gotten worse with our new CEO going in a meeting where we were told to do something and that we were required to do it, but it wasn’t going to put in writing with the final straw for me I quit I’m sure that’s what they wanted was for people to quit, but if the decision is to put up with the kind of stress, this was causing or just go ahead and leave my choice was to go ahead and leave. I know several other nurses after that meeting who simply said I can’t do this anymore and have started very actively looking for new jobs on Friday one of those season UM nurses I’ve worked with quit. She retired early because she didn’t want to deal with this cr-p either that should tell people stuff people are leaving right and left. Yes like I said, I know that’s what management wants but having my spirit broken is not worth proving a point by saying I wish everyone luck there will be a layoff. I hope the ones that want to stay are able to stay. And I hope the ones that want to leave or able to find something soon.
@k2 Yeah, all if the leaders are now and for the last 3 years have been outright, bold-faced, lying to their staff to not worry, “AI is not here to replace anyone.” They most assuredly are lying. And they know that once things are in place, and layoffs in mass commence, that it will be too late for any employee pushback.
If you speak about it on team calls, you will be marked out as a troublemaker and they will seek to push you out. If that happens, I suggest being willing to devote at least 2 years trying to get even with this company and your direct leaders and your leader’s leader.
@k0 I wouldn’t believe or trust that either
Good to know I am not alone in how I feel. We were told there would not be any layoffs because of epic and it would be all hands on deck. I am not sure if I believe that.
Yeah, it will be these 5 large health insurance corporations that will be the ruin of healthcare.
Actually, it has already started. I think eventually people will see it as a racket where health insurance just wants to collect member premiums without ever wanting to pay for any expensive claims.
And when people start doing the math on what the health insurance companies are willing to pay on, and the small frequency that those minor things occur, they will figure that they are better off just socking away in a separate emergency savings account for those rare rainy day events.
Because what really is the point of having health insurance if it does not really insure you for anything substantial.
Personally, I think people are even bow better off doing that but in addition purchasing a specialized insurance plan for cancer and/or other catastrophic things.
not in writing, not accountable
Not in writing can write up nurse for doing something thet can’t prove they werent supposed to do
Nurses are written up, easy to fire and not have to pay out severance in a layoff, which we all know is coming
It’s like a sick form of gaslighting
By the time you’ve had enough your questioning whether you’re even capable of doing the job anymore
Corporate greed, save severance pay and destroy lives