Thread regarding Cigna layoffs

What’s Bands are affected?

We all got the email and I know this is a d-mb question but what Band levels do you all think will be most affected? Some say middle management should worry, others argue it’s going to be the regular workers (Band 1 and 2) this time. I theorize it will be a mix of everyone.


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Post ID: @OP+1m6s32ee6

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@ae and they don’t know what they’re doing. On the clinical side alone, we have to go back and do a new review because they pend for clinical that was in the notes in the first place and should have been approved and that just makes the patient wait longer to get what they need. Then you have 3rd party callers on behalf of the MDO answer questions that don’t match the clinical or cases that get approved online when they don’t meet criteria. So much money is being wasted by letting these people answer clinical online incorrectly and get approved. Clinical should be required on all reviews.

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Post ID: @ry+1m6s32ee6

@qe idk if it really exists

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Post ID: @qy+1m6s32ee6

@q6

Thanks! I was actually asking about the email about bands, seems like it was sent separately

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Post ID: @qe+1m6s32ee6

@q5 It is posted on the main page here, with the title "Team," starting with "Our Lead to One vision is to know the people we serve better [...]" Scroll down a little and you will find it. That's the one that was sent out en masse.
Someone in this thread is saying there was an email specifying bands. No one has posted that email here.

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Post ID: @q6+1m6s32ee6

Can someone plz share what the email said?

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Post ID: @q5+1m6s32ee6

@fe we have 3 in our department who are incompetent and useless. Micromanaging or so hands off they have no idea what’s going on. Some people just keep failing up.

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Post ID: @m6+1m6s32ee6

@e1 the senior manager is very friendly w/a VP who said it would mostly be “people leaders” affected in this 3 year initiative. Agree with you that ICs (like you & I) are targets too because as we have learned in all these layoffs, no one is truly safe at this company.
As someone else here said there are a lot of management levels at Cigna that probably aren’t needed. Do I want anyone to lose their job? Absolutely not but there seems to be a lot of cooks in a small kitchen.

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Post ID: @kv+1m6s32ee6

The goal is to flatten the organization. The management ratio at Cigna is much higher than our competitors. The jobs most impacted will be VP, Director, and Manager. For once, they are actually focused on one of the root problems.

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Post ID: @ka+1m6s32ee6

@f6 the number of managers and senior managers who are utterly incompetent is absolutely astounding. Like - they literally will bad mouth their team and lay people off to protect themselves. I think of your entire team or a good proportion was laid off then you should be too.

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Post ID: @fe+1m6s32ee6

Evernorth is much more top heavy than Cigna Healthcare. I've worked in both parts of the company and the number of band 5 and 6 people in Evernorth is ridiculous. Many people who are managing directors in Evernorth would be lucky to be considered directors in Cigna Healthcare. I guess it's a legacy ESI issue.

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Post ID: @f6+1m6s32ee6

@ay, senior managers do not usually have a line of sight into these things. I'm only trusting what I hear from those above at or even above the sr. director level. I wonder where they heard that? Or maybe they have a really good relationship with someone much higher up? With that said, I do think mid and low managers are at a particularly high risk for the 2027 cuts. In my opinion, that would be manager, sr. manager, director levels. As an IC, I am more worried if there are other teams and people that do similar work, where the teams could be combined and then eliminate redundancy.

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Post ID: @e1+1m6s32ee6

@a9 what email

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Post ID: @br+1m6s32ee6

Band 4 and 5 mostly

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Post ID: @b3+1m6s32ee6

I was told by a sr manager it was mostly “people leaders”. So I guess if you are in a position where people report to you then you have a target on you.

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Post ID: @ay+1m6s32ee6

@a7 you are probably right. I keep seeing job postings in the Philippines and India.

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Post ID: @ae+1m6s32ee6

I was told band 3-7, it was in our email.

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Post ID: @a9+1m6s32ee6

All bands under band 7.

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Post ID: @a8+1m6s32ee6

It’s not about bands. It’s about nationality.

If you are American, you are at risk

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Post ID: @a7+1m6s32ee6

Everyone below SLT and ELT is at risk

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