SAP Germany has started layoffs by making employees that are born in 1968 and 1969 for semi retirement. Their managers are already asking them to take these offers and leave. As there is no pension grandfathering for these agreements, this is a very bad deal for them. But they will be forced to take it anyway. After HR knows how many are actually leaving and they have figured out the costs, they will start to use the lists from each area for more layoffs. My friends in HR say that the total is expected to be about 10% of the German workforce. More will be shared in Q1 once these lists are finalized. Be good to your managers because they will ultimately decide who will be let go of. L1 from each area is asked to give names corresponding to 10% their workforce. So it is going to be a bloodbath in 2027 and 2028. All of this while SAP is making more and more money every year thanks to its employees. CK retires in 2028 so he wants a big payout from these "savings". I am so mad at the CK fans who keep supporting the board despite all this. If we employees do a good job and our company is not struggling, we should have job security. It's not a big ask. Yet SAP leadership has shown that they do not care about employees. What is worse is that SAP leadership makes more money than average than any other company in Europe and for them it is still not enough. How can we stop this greed?
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@ej Chuck will fire this VP.
@dg you cannot reason with the AfD supporters. AfD emails were leaked recently and it clearly shows that they are Nzis. And that is why some people support them. One of the VPs in my area commented on this saying that they are targeted by other parties and that this is disinformation. Imagine this! This guy literally has more than a 100 people reporting indirectly to him. He also has one team in India. And he is an avid AfD supporter and if you are at the WDF or ROT office, he talks about them all the time. He will never be fired. And he will happily lay off anyone immigrant or not. It's because people like him have hate in their hearts. And hate is an important skill to become a successful manager at SAP.
@cr Really? Because from where I'm sat in the org they are doing the absolute oposite and fireing people in usa and europe to hire them in south america, asia and the ex soviet block countries where they are cheap to hire.
For employees born in 1968 and 1969, it's impossible to find a job, whether in this bad economy or not. SAP does not wish to compensate for it. The management is doing this so in the future layoffs young employees blame older employees instead of management. It is just another misdirection to take power away from employees.
Job market everywhere is terrible. SAP is localising roles in Europe and America. So they will cut jobs in markets where labour laws are loose and hire in Europe. Funny thing is that that means they are widening a base of unsackable employees. People know that it is impossible to reduce EU workforce. So they will cut other roles in other markets.
Looking for a comparable job in this market su-ks because the pay grades are not vastly different to SAPs.
I am sure CK and DA will do the needful.
And once the layoffs are done, SAP can hire more Indians.
Sap does not know how to do layoff . It is that simple . Sap is bloated and atleast needs 20% cut . 20% in Germany has to happen. But they won’t so they just cut everywhere else .
No manager can force an employee to take retirement. In Germany everything is voluntary. Those from 1968 and 1967 who do not have enough in their AZK are safe.
So is this going to happen in the US too, or only Germany?
While I agree about the sentiments towards the board, I think we have to acknowledge how bloated we are. So many T4 and T5 proving very little value, a lot of complacency and entitlement, compared to US Tech companies where at this level, 1-2 quarters of lack luster performance means you are out. Not saying that is the right way, just calling out the very big disconnect there, so something has to change…