Thread regarding Dell Inc. layoffs

@jp so a change happened and you adjusted? Hmmm...

Because we shifted our lives around WFH. Selling a car. Remodeling a working space. Kid/pet care. Moving etc. Coming back full time ruined all that.

@OP 1. Who the he-l calls COVID ‘Rona’?

1. Because many of us worked from home two, three, four days a week before the lockdown. We were happy and productive.

@b1 you already went on and on

I don't think anybody should have to "go" to work. That's for "essential" workers.

Dell was all for remote work until the January 2025 official reversal.

Some people made some serious life changes to work remote then it was reversed.

It doesn't matter what it was like Pre Covid.

His initial Championing of work from home was in 2022. At the time:

Michael Dell actively championed remote work, stating that allowing staff to work from home yielded no meaningful differences in performance compared to office-based workers. He criticized other tech CEOs for "forced hours spent in a traditional office"

@e5 "hur durrr AI bad"

crazy work to double down with the "you must've used AI to write that" just because you’re butthurt.

@dx

Sad that you felt the need to rely on AI to compose this response.

No self-confidence, no panache, no originality.
Your "life" = NPC
lulz

@e0 damn lady take some Paracetamol

@dx

Translation: I'm copying the posting style of someone whose wit, humor, honesty, boldness and creativity I envy. For some reason though, when I try to follow their lead, my wannabe attempt to be even anywhere near on par falls flat. I su-k.

I'm gonna try to offer a response that doesn't come across like I just hate people and am on my period like @b1+1kv3q7gg7 posted lol.

1. The commute. I live 45 miles away down I35. My option are to sit in traffic for 90 minutes, or take 130 and spend $30/day on tolls. Not to mention the ABSURD wear and tear that arbitrary drive will put on my Cadillac.

2. The equipment. At home, I have a $2000 Herman-Miller Aeron that makes me forget that I'm sitting down. My dual ultrawide monitors mean I never have to shuffle through apps on my screen, I have them up perpetually at the same time. My echo cancelling speakerphone is top-tier and doesnt make feel like a dingus wearing a headset like I'm an entry level scrub pounding dials. At the office, their chairs make my back hurt, the monitors are like a postage stamp compared to what I'm used for, and I'm not bringing in one of my $400 custom mechanical keyboards to get stolen so I'm forced to use a sh---y membrane keyboard that that some kid has left cheeto dust all over from the previous hot-desking.

3. Time management. Every day I exercise over lunch. I couldn't do that at the office because they never reopened the gym after the RTO push. Or I can run errands, take a break in bed with the wife, or just stop working for a bit and not feel like I've got eyes on me. None of this impacts my deliverable timelines in the slightest.

4. The forced social interaction. I'll agree with Ms. Priss on this one, idgaf about any of y'all. No, Idgaf about team building exercises, or offsites, or anything. In fact, stop calling me when I ping you a simple question. That was not an invitation to call me.

5. I've been remote for the better part of a decade and being told to arbitrarily give all those perks up just to make some socialite execs that have sh---y homelives happy is not going to happen. F you, fire me.

@df

Many during covid were told.

Yes, you can move.

They bought homes, enrolled kids in school, set up roots, and were told "we are never going back".

Dell LIED.

Now, those people who bet their lives on a lie are now being cut loose for not RTO.

Unscrupulous sounds accurate.

When they let me work from home, that would be from 2015 through 2024, I used to work more than eight hours a day and was largely available to the company at any time because I felt privileged to work from home. Now I’m really putting in about four hours a day and my commute is considered part of my eight hours commitment. Shot yourselves in the foot on this rank-a-s policy. Resentment has a price.

@OP You're not the brightest bulb are you?

A lot of people moved to other locations better suited for their family or personal needs because of the words of one reneging POS hypocrite, who said, "We will never go back." That was a lie.

Why in-office suxxazz, let me count the ways:

• Ugly and/or smelly and/or fashion-fail coworkers.
  Yes I said it. Some of you have faces that are downright repulsive to look at, and none of us deserve to be exposed to such heinousness. Ditto for your wackazz clothing choices, lame mannerisms, stankazz coffeebreath, and/or nastyazz B.O.

• Lazy, stupid, and/or unmotivated coworkers.
  No, I don't want to hold your hand, pick up your slack, cover for you, or be your mentor. We're colleagues who are supposedly on the same level in terms of experience and work responsibilities, so get your sh!t together on your own, just as I managed to do for myself. It's easier for me to be able to avoid being physically accosted by you stopping by my workspace in the office for "help" multiple times a day, if I can simply be "unavailable" to you on Teams from home. And no, I don't want to share my personal phone # with you. See this line here? It's drawn: we're not friends, we're coworkers.

• Lonely or socially awkward coworkers who want to be your friend.
  I have friends outside of work. These are people in my real life, who I choose to have in my life, and who I genuinely care about and enjoy spending time with. Work life isn't real life, it's a charade that we all play our acting parts in, so we can receive money, with which to live. I didn't choose to have you as a coworker, we are forced to spend time together for work. If given the choice, you wouldn't be in my life in any way shape or form, what so ever. You don't spark any interest in me to want to be your friend, with your dull personality, fake laugh, low intelligence, complete lack of a sense of humor, and zero sense of creativity or fun. You also cannot be trusted, and have proven yourself to be a snake, so fu*k off with the phony pretense of wanting to get to know me better. You know as much about me as I carefully allow you to see during work hours, and that's all you get. Deal with it.

• Pathetic coworkers who are always either complaining about or bragging about their family members' problems and/or accomplishments.
  I don't care...did you hear me? Repeat: I. Don't. CARE.. about your family members' lives. I don't care what they do in school, or in their work situations, or with their hobbies, or with their relationships or life's struggles and achievements. Stop subjecting me to having to hear about it, because again: I don't care! I don't have the bandwidth to care, nor the energy or faux-interest to pretend to care, so just put a lid on it. Save it for your mama.

• Bosses who are tyrants and/or cluelessly out to lunch.
  Just fu*k off, already.
  Be clear and concise with what you need from me, set reasonable deadlines, then leave me alone to do my work. I'll efficiently and with savvy excellence, get your precious deliverables to you on time, and communicate progress along the way...just DON'T: micromanage me, triangulate members of my team against one another, or play games with my money or my time. Treat me with respect, and you'll get stellar work. Be a sh!theel, and congrats, you've poisoned your own well.

• The commute.
  Public transportation bites, and dealing with traffic, paying for gas, wear & tear on the car, parking, etc. is just as annoying. Both eat up extra time which could be spent working or doing ANYTHING else but commuting!

• Comfort.
  No, I'm not going to jump on a professional Teams call in some crusty jammies, with disheveled bedhead and undereye gel patches affixed to my face, but come on, get real. A presentable yet comfy-casual outfit and fresh face with no "products" slathered onto skin and hair is a refreshing alternative to having to "be professionally ON" with hair and clothes M-F. Plus, I can fix lunch in my own kitchen, and use my own toilet during work breaks!

• Speaking of toilets...
  Workplace toilet behavior of some coworkers is utterly disgusting, and in some cases, genuinely physically unhealthy to be exposed to. I'm talking: coworkers who are obsessed with their teeth, who violently facefu*k themselves with battery operated toothbrushes, spraying their gumscum, plaque, and foamy spittle into the same sink/s where you're simply trying to wash your hands. Stray hairs left littering the sink/countertop. Coworkers who don't flush the toilet, even after dropping a deuce. Spraying the toilet seat with ur--e, or worse, period blood...then just leaving it there. Used paper towels crumpled up on the floor, instead of into the trash can. Lengthy gossip sesh or dr-g use going on. Nosehair-curling fartstank lingering in the air.

• Autonomy.
  I am capable of working on my own, and consistently producing finished product that my superiors are impressed with. It's more enjoyable and humane for me to do this in my nice quiet beautifully decorated home office, where I can customize the lighting and and AC/heat to my liking; rather than in some open-office layout, where there are dozens of other people around who are inevitably: distracting with their LOUD conversations, disruptive comings and goings, demands for me to drop what I'm doing to focus on some inane topic of conversation they mistakenly believe is "important", which is really just more waste of my time, etc.

I could go on and on, but we all know that RTO isn't about collaboration, or even about the tax breaks that the company might have gotten, to keep workers in the area so we spend money at local businesses during lunch hour. No, RTO is about tightening the n00se, to make employees THAT MUCH MORE uncomfy, so we eventually will want to leave, so you can farm out the work to offshore simpletons who are willing to accept whatever pittance you choose to pay them. And eventually, your goal is to replace even those fools with AI...which we all know, isn't going to work in the long run, at all. You've chosen the terribly wrong, absolutely worst choice, and you're sticking to it!

So go for broke, ELT!
Swing for the fences!
It's a losing game you're playing, but you're just SO determined to see it through!
PLAY BALL!

Why do you work at Dell? What do you do whatever your told? Who are you? What is your purpose in life? Do you love me? How do you improve the quality of my life?

@Op: because I don’t give a sh-t about a career or money or anything that I can buy. I don’t want anything attached to this material world. They promised freedom but it’s a lie. It’s a trap. It’s all by design to feed your sinful desires. Awake you sleeper

Is OP someone in upper management? LOL.

Before covid you only worked MWF in office.

nobody does fulltime work at home...be honest. It's the great american fable.

because work from home is a scam and everyone in the company knows it. If the perpetrators would accept 75% of there current salary to work at home it would be okay.Paying part time people fulltime money is a no go

They closed several global/regional offices. What happens to those people?

Because even pre-Covid we still weren’t full time in the office?

Because not all of us worked for Dell our entire lives and were remote before COVID. Like seven years before.

HR has entered the chat.

Because I like NOT wasting my fcking time to “see” people for “collaboration” that happens for about 75 minutes each week.

And: most of the organic matter walking around inside an office is disgusting.

Because we learned that we don’t NEED to be in the office.