Thread regarding SAP layoffs

Ignore the survey

Our senior leadership were visibility angry when they shared the results of last survey, we've even were told to leave SAP if we weren't happy and not to fault them as leaders. This survey I am not going to even bother answering. They have a target on the number of responses and I am not going to help them. As per the comments, they are worth nothing, I've hold roles close to leaders in the past and leaders didn't do a single thing rather than making calculations and trying to guess who answered what. If I am still here by when the survey is launched, I am going to ignore the email and the 200 reminders I'll receive after.

Everybody should do the same as @bp+1k7bwjdxa. I certainly plan to.


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Post ID: @OP+1k7eg45mh

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@hw There is no correlation between your survey answers and the probability of being laid off.

Theoretically SAP can check your answers, but if this would be found out (and it would!), SAP's reputation especially with regard to her cloud trustworthiness would tank. I don't think they would risk this.

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Post ID: @j8+1k7eg45mh

How do I have to answer the survey if I want to stay at SAP? Would an expression of trust in the board help? Or would it be considered su-king up and put me on the list?

I absolutely must optimize this. I need to be safe.

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Post ID: @hw+1k7eg45mh

For those interested in joining: the survey will start tomorrow.

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Post ID: @f6+1k7eg45mh

@d3 For sure it won't change anything, at least we can release our anger and frustration towards our lovely board and not helping to pretend everything is working well & people are motivated.

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Post ID: @dg+1k7eg45mh

@OP If it makes you feel better fill it out. Just keep your expectations in check when it comes to seeing any positive changes.

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Post ID: @d3+1k7eg45mh

The survey is a scam and used as an excuse/catalyst for C suite raises. They know employees that fill them out will give good feedback because they are NOT anonymous. If you think they give a cr-p what you think or how you feel about them you are insane.

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Post ID: @cg+1k7eg45mh

Its a trap!

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Post ID: @c2+1k7eg45mh

Reminds me of a famous dialogue for GOT - You know nothing John Snow!
Maybe most of us are John Snows and we don’t know that the game is rigged to benefit only a few at every level!

Regarding Signavio - just google Signavio and Bloomberg and see how the management is protected from top to bottom by everyone.

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Post ID: @br+1k7eg45mh

Those at the helm are not true leaders if they need a survey to get a real pulse of the organization. If they can’t tell by now that there is signifcant lack of trust then they must be smoking some good stuff.

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Post ID: @bf+1k7eg45mh

@ag Years ago, I did filled out SAP surveys where I added this in the comments:

If I perceive any form of retaliation from my survey responses, it will be clear SAP is allowing the creation of a hostile work environment & will bring the matter to an attorney.

Worked like a charm.

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Post ID: @ap+1k7eg45mh

I will ignore the survey. There is no point to it.

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Post ID: @an+1k7eg45mh

Still providing feedback even though l might be identifiable... anyhow we have a target on our back, so at least l can rate them as they deserve.

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Post ID: @ag+1k7eg45mh

If too few team members in a team (8?) answer a question, the results of this question are not disclosed to the team or the manager. This way, smaller teams lead to the suppression of a lot of feedback.

This makes the survey largely pointless.

HPOM, the gift that keeps on giving. BTW, the German word "Gift" means "poison". Hmmmm...

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Post ID: @af+1k7eg45mh

@a6 it changes the perception of many newcomers and people who’re in their early career. They believe that the board and management is doing great.

It takes a special type of ego to make money off other people’s suffering and still want to be hailed as heroes.

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Post ID: @ae+1k7eg45mh

"If voting changed anything, they’d make it illegal", Emma Goldman
Same is with surveys.

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Post ID: @a6+1k7eg45mh

I know a few Signavio teams in India that were asked to provide positive feedback, and based on those reviews, some "leaders" received significant annual raises. There's already a straightforward way to see how one scores.

In HPOM, they attempted to create smaller teams, which leads to better overall reviews because of the impact of weighted averages. Smaller teams also make it easier for managers to identify which employees aren't "conforming" to the expectation of giving better reviews.

I'm feeling pretty disheartened too and might just skip the survey this year.

Let's not forget that upper management is in league with the board, and they won't take any steps to improve conditions for employees who are several levels below them. It wouldn't be shocking if the board and most L1s still receive outstanding reviews, regardless of how they've been treating the staff.

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