Voluntary Termination Pay for Leg T craft is soon coming! That's up to 104 weeks pay for workers with 31 years and over. The company has decided it's cheaper to get rid of old timers via VTP than to continue keeping them on their payroll. Workers know that they'll eventually get it so very few are leaving. Most maintain the understandably simple view: "I ain't leaving till they pay me to leave!" They also know and see how the company is trying to make it so difficult with hopes they just quit and retire. But most are not leaving, and they know the company cannot easily fire them. In fact most do the minimal amount of work they can get away with without getting fired and they take advantage of all the many ways to take paid days off work knowing that their life outside of work is so very much more important as the company grows more and more meaningless.
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Discussions happening today regarding cost reduction option of declaring surplus on positions in Bloomington Minnesota due to numbers showing these workers having the highest hourly labor and benefit costs and lowest productivity along with the highest absenteeism rates - targeting them for reduction.
@10f when?¿😬
Surplus is coming soon!
@q7 VTP is not new as you're implying, you silly bootlicker. And we'll be lol@you soon.
So the Union got you something in the new contract, that you will never be offered.
YUUUP, that makes you a winner.
@jy Hopefully they will offer it to both management and occupational. Then ALOT of the AGING population will gladly take the package!
@e5
Same thing happened for DEG techs last year in Houston.
“ VRIP 1997 it happened at T and managers had a chance to jump on it.”
That was 29 years ago. When was the last real offer? I’ve been here 15 years and haven’t seen one, nor heard of an actual one. You get the occasional person getting laid off and some anecdotal stories, but no real offer. The top has already said it’s not going to happen numerous times.
VRIP 1997 it happened at T and managers had a chance to jump on it.
What a great environment stank created. Treat loyal employees like cr-p and they get so sick of being abused they do minimal work. Stank created this cesspool and yet he gets rewarded. Weird.
I bid 6ft comes before 104wks
He’s still upvoting his own posts and downvoting detractors. This guy has serious issues.
VTP will be celebrated by so many workers! And it's so easy hanging out until then, there's no reason to quit for free. Easy money, good benefits, so many paid days off and all along knowing that eventually we'll all be laid off ~ and we Leg T union workers will get a very nice termination package when that inevitably happens. It would $u-k to be a manager.
We’ve seen posts like this for a while and it doesn’t happen. It’s too costly to the company to do this, they will just wait you out until you drop dead or retire on your own. They will just make you as miserable as possible to speed up that process. These question get asked in the townhalls every quarter and the answer is always, there will not now or any time in the future be any package offer. So don’t count on it.
@ag Dead Wrong!!! C and E tech here I transferred from repair about 5 years ago and the old timers that we replaced got paid about 50k bonus plus their normal severance pay.
some walked away with 100k plus for leaving!
This was about 5 years ago but don't say it can never happen because it does all the time!!
There will be no offers. Get over it.
Wait until they find out that in addition to the generous severance package craft employees get, we keep our company subsidized health care in retirement until medicare eligable.
They'll probably throw their red swingline into their cubicle wall.
lol@this because most of us know how to game the system doing actually way LESS work than is expected, thus we're doing much LESS than what's required so I'm not going to STFU because I'm not. In fact, I'm LMFAO@dooshBags like you! hahaaa... and we're getting away with it!
Cool story bro.
Looking for a handout.
Dude just stop with the nonsense.
To fire someone is a lot cheaper than surplus or offer the package.
56m ago by Anonymous
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Probably would be, but they don't. Craft workers have just a tiny, tiny bit more job protection than non bargained "managers".
Oh who I'm I trying to kid. They have a lot more job protection...
Taking years off your quality of life in retirement via clso much climbing, crawling, lifting and driving a truck everyday for 30-40 years of your life deserves more like 300 months of severance.
To fire someone is a lot cheaper than surplus or offer the package.
@OP we had a voluntary severance payment VSP in my area last year and it was a "informal surplus",volunteers took around 98k...pretty sure will happen again this year.
The 104 weeks is what we call gold standard job security. It means no layoffs. Not too many leg t techs left.
@aj: The company cannot surplus the young ones due to our union contract. When a surplus is announced, the VTP must be offered for the number being surplussed and then is goes by seniority to get it, so it's the old timers who do actually get the VTP.
Good luck w that. Company will obviously surplus the young ones and leave you to rot. Better yet, HR will find something you did and fire you if or when they want.
Retired tech here. You’ll never get paid to leave, trust me.
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I don't trust you.
Retired tech here. You’ll never get paid to leave, trust me.
Keep dreaming bud. You’ll be fired without severance or worked hard until you quit. Just facts.
We appreciate that you’ll be staying till you die. God knows we have enough old tech that only a few old timers know how to maintain we need you dreamers to stay.
@a6: lol@this because most of us know how to game the system doing actually way LESS work than is expected, thus we're doing much LESS than what's required so I'm not going to STFU because I'm not. In fact, I'm LMFAO@dooshBags like you! hahaaa... and we're getting away with it!
In fact most do the minimal amount of work they can get away with without getting fired
There is no requirement to reach the "Exceeds expectations" rating. If they're doing what's required of them then STFU.
Allow me to save some terrified "manager" whose job has one foot in the grave and the other one on a banana peel some time. iT wiLL nEveR hApPeN!!
There, you don't need to say it.