Thread regarding Verizon Communications Inc. layoffs

Nothing but crybabies now - thought Elon couldn’t do it ?

The "Big Three" U.S. carriers—AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon—have united to lobby the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) to fight a new satellite-to-phone spectrum proposal primarily because they fear it will degrade their existing 5G terrestrial networks through signal interference, strip away their control over spectrum licensing, and fast-track a massive new market competitor in SpaceX's Starlink Mobile.
The FCC's proposal, scheduled for an October 29, 2026 vote, aims to open an additional 482 MHz of spectrum for Supplemental Coverage from Space (SCS), expanding eligible satellite bands from 5 to 13.
The specific reasons the wireless carriers are fiercely opposing the changes through their trade group, the CTIA, include:

  1. Severe 5G Network Interference

The carriers are demanding that the FCC remove the 2.5 GHz and 3.45 GHz frequencies from the proposal, which would take 290 MHz off the table.
• TDD Conflict: T-Mobile relies heavily on the 2.5 GHz band, and AT&T operates on the 3.45 GHz band. Both use Time-Division Duplexing (TDD), meaning their cell towers and consumer phones share the exact same radio bands to both send and receive data.
• Signal Degradation: The carriers argue that if a satellite flies overhead using these exact same workhorse 5G bands, it will cause severe technical and interference challenges, ultimately slowing down or disrupting service for over 300 million terrestrial wireless users.

  1. Loss of Spectrum Control and Rights

Under current FCC frameworks, satellite operators are required to lease spectrum from ground carriers, giving the cellular providers full veto power and control.
• Frequency Sharing: The FCC proposal wants to replace these rigid leasing frameworks with flexible agreements that allow satellite and ground operators to share frequencies.
• The Pushback: The carriers are fighting to preserve mandatory carrier consent, termination rights, and absolute control over who uses the spectrum they invested billions of dollars to license. They contend that cellular providers—not the FCC—should dictate if a satellite company can utilize their airwaves.

  1. Fending Off Starlink Mobile as a Direct Carrier Competitor

While the carriers support satellite-to-phone connectivity in theory (and have executed their own partnerships), the FCC’s sudden push directly clears the path for SpaceX to become an independent fourth major U.S. mobile carrier.
• Market Disruption: The FCC recently approved SpaceX’s acquisition of Tristar's AWS-3 spectrum and cleared 15,000 next-gen Starlink Mobile satellites capable of beaming 100x the bandwidth directly to ordinary smartphones.
• Massive Stakes: SpaceX is actively looking to build terrestrial infrastructure and secure massive blocks of spectrum to back up its satellites on the ground. Wall Street responded to the threat of a dominant, space-blended Starlink network by sending Verizon and AT&T stock tumbling. By locking down the 2.5 GHz and 3.45 GHz bands, the Big Three are trying to starve SpaceX of the massive spectrum depth it needs to fully compete with them.
Former FCC Chairman Ajit Pai, currently acting as CEO of the CTIA, has formally joined the carriers' push, meeting with current FCC Chairman Brendan Carr to urge the commission to drop the contested 5G bands from the satellite expansion draft entirely.
Would you like to know more about how SpaceX's current deal with T-Mobile differs from its new standalone carrier ambitions, or would you like details on the AT&T and Verizon partnership with AST SpaceMobile?


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@js You mean for the quarter right? So they expect to go from 11B per year to 250B per year? That must be some good stuff they are smoking. Elon doesn’t know what business he wants to be in. Automotive? Aerospace? Internet provider? Telecommunications? Chip maker?

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Post ID: @kx+1m5qt2h48

@ec Starlink reporting $11.4 BILLION in 2025 revenues, with CAPEX expenditures of $3.8B for SpaceX and $4.2B for Starlink. They're doing quite fine.

Like you said though, you're not good at math so you're probably in the finance department.

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Post ID: @js+1m5qt2h48

This company still relevant? It looks like it’s employees sit on this site more than they make my phone service not su-k.

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Post ID: @h4+1m5qt2h48

@b2 then report it along with evidence vs wasting time whining out here

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Post ID: @g1+1m5qt2h48

@e1 That moment when you realize that the average cell phone user pays less than $100 per month for their service unlike those companies that pay billions to launch their satellites into orbit. I’m not good at math. How many cell phone customers will they need to make their billions back?

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Post ID: @ec+1m5qt2h48

If arrogance and ignorance were a stock metric Verizon would be at $200 a share by now!

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Post ID: @e1+1m5qt2h48

@OP I was out with a group of friends last night watching the game and we were all complaining about our internet being too fast. Thankfully Elon has come up with a solution with his 35mb service. I for one, can’t wait to switch. Sincerely yours, The Slowskis

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Post ID: @dw+1m5qt2h48

I doubt the block will happen… Antitrust laws.

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Post ID: @d0+1m5qt2h48

dont worry about anything else but lowering your stock price. You hire asians... your stock goes down and down. If you want to keep yoiur stock stable f uk the asian. if you don't you will loose all of your life investment. Look at tmob with their indian ceo. their stock is crashing for over 2 yrs,. you best wake up fast. your investment your loses are due to asians in the USA

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Post ID: @by+1m5qt2h48

@av Beyond sick what those 2 did to Ukraine.

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Post ID: @b9+1m5qt2h48

@aj Some people in management lack experience, knowledge, education, or leadership skills. But the most troubling issue is a lack of integrity—dressing up KPIs, telling half-truths, overpromising and underdelivering, making false accusations, shifting blame, and showing favoritism toward certain teams or employees.

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Post ID: @b2+1m5qt2h48

@as speaking of the “government” blocking things, read up on what is going on with Star Shield in Ukraine. Doesn’t sound very competitive to me.

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Post ID: @av+1m5qt2h48

We’re using the government to block because we know we can’t compete if we allow him to play. This is sickening

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Post ID: @as+1m5qt2h48

40 years in Verizon. Got to work for many VPs. The best were in the Bell Atlantic/NYNEX days... never publicly attack a competitor.. win business on the field. Enterprise sales we competed hard and Customers might not of always gave us rhe deal but never once questioned integrity.

In the long run we won deals we kost years later.

Current Vz VPs lack experience and education.

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Post ID: @aj+1m5qt2h48

Elon vs vz C -Level

Equivalent of Alabama vs Rutgers in College Football

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Post ID: @a7+1m5qt2h48

@OP zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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Post ID: @a4+1m5qt2h48

chris flood clearly said elon is underestimating how hard it is to run a telco company. no need to worry

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