Thread regarding Comcast layoffs

@dv reply to— “the crowd has turned into a mob eager to find scapegoats”

Imagine not following what every single well-known US company is doing at the moment. It is very obvious which is why more people are concerned and talking about it all over the country. It’s funny to see people making comments about how only certain jobs go to these centers, but that doesn’t tell the whole picture. It’s ignorant to think that more jobs won’t be placed there with a company who thinks this is the way to save it, but pffft, why should current US employees worry about that?! Well, maybe because most people cannot afford to look the other way anymore. People should really pay more attention throughout layoffs and restructurings. They follow patterns almost always.

Take a look from top down at IBM, Amazon, Microsoft, Google, Xbox, FedEx, etc. What do you notice is happening at the top in leadership? And who do you notice they are hiring? It’s not some big secret. It’s a trend that has accelerated since offshoring came into play at GCCs.

So no, it’s not a scapegoat for other issues going on but it does play a huge role in where Comcast could be headed and I’m sure many US employees have been at the mercy of this in one way or another. It’s a glimpse at how they treat their employees domestically - how credentials, location, experience, + merit is being taken into consideration for Job placements - how they treat their customer’s concerns. There are some examples in this thread. There are obvious, huge gaps in what is being done somewhere else compared to the US. Facts.

Lol the amount of cope is crazy in this thread. This doesn’t pertain solely to CTC, but across the company. Heck, the past 2-3 years the writing was on the wall when leadership straight up told folks that those in the U.S. will be more focused on the ‘business’ side of things, with the engineering/analytical/technical being moved to india.

Heck, I’ve had a few indian colleagues who themselves mentioned the favoritism of certain regions or castes within india itself was preferred over others. It becomes pretty apparent seeing who’s in these positions of authority to be able to push for these changes, again not just in CTC, but HQ etc.

Also, not trying to 100% solely blame our colleagues, but I’m seeing some comments state it hasn’t changed anything.. really? So many processes and things are unnecessarily taking twice as long if not longer not only due to time zone, but more specifically the quality of work. Again, there are some talented folks out there, but it feels that a majority of the time the work that has come back is subpar and many times requires more than one pass or multiple revisions. Add that in with the timezone differences and sometimes you have to wait for over a day for many processes.

Unfortunately about the only way we are a ‘tech’ company is how we imitate them in outsourcing said jobs lol. Shame

@df the crowd has turned into a mob eager to find scapegoats.

@df the outsourcing of any jobs is bad, mmkay

@de You are talking as if it’s all departments being sent over to India. It’s not. It’s a specific silo of roles not like the majority of the company is being outsourced. Stop.

@at really? i interact with people that have taken corp level positions from ameircans in india daily. https://jobs.comcast.com/asia

We have the CIEC in chennai india , soi dont know if this affects us at all really.

@ak Another serious concern is the apparent regional favoritism in hiring, promotions, and job security. There is a growing perception that employees from Telugu- or Tamil-speaking backgrounds receive preferential treatment, while others face additional scrutiny, workplace politics, and a greater risk of layoffs.

It sometimes feels as though technical knowledge, professional experience, hard work, and actual contributions matter less than belonging to the right internal circle. If you have the right connections, your position appears secure regardless of your performance. If you are outside that circle, even years of dedication and strong technical expertise may not protect you from internal politics or questionable layoff decisions.

@b9 good reference:

https://layoffhedge.com/h1b/employer/comcast-cable-communications-llc

Offshoring is separate.

@b2 this affects primarily engineering roles. you’re making it seem like the entire business is being moved abroad.
simmer down and unclench

@at your response is disappointing because it tells me you don’t know what’s happening, what people are going through internally or how it affects everyone’s futures including Comcast’s. Pay attention to what’s happening throughout corporate America.

“While C-suite executives (CEOs, CFOs, General Counsels) remain exclusively in the Philadelphia Corporate HQ, the work transferred to India extends all the way up to Vice Presidents and Principal Architects within the tech, data, and network infrastructure domains”

@am OP was claiming this has “enormous” impact on the companies involved, when in reality it just messes up the lives of individuals and their families. The companies will be just fine.

@at this is what you find when the ship is sinking. Prior to this summer there was not much traffic here and the tone was more civil than on forums of other telcos. It has now been revealed the “tech company” was just wishful thinking and grievances aired non-stop here are now on par with those from other telcos. Well, at least people are revealing who they really are.

@as Corporate level work has not been transferred to India. stop.
This whole thread is disappointing.

Connect and TPX already have several new "consultants and contracts" from each of these staffing firms. Already these people have taken over the work that was preformed by the laid-off/ fired American staff. Its impossible to not see if your in the CTC office.

Already the Indian offices are doing the super majority of the network analytics and marketing that the American staff has been preforming. Mostly all of the NE, Central and West division corporate level work has been fully transferred to India with mixed results.

I say this because I'm often having to answer questions to these contractors and division replacements about the exact same reports that I used to work with the American on. Absolutely nothing has changed with the reports. Just feel really bad for the Americans who got fired and directly replaced.

This will have no impact on anything

@ak why don’t we ask customers what they think? The responses would be endless.

@af While it’s right to say that PERM and H-1Bs are separate processes, saying the impact is 'practically zero' ignores the 6-year H-1B limit.

An H-1B worker can only extend their status past 6 years if they have a PERM pending for over a year or an approved I-140. By freezing PERMs, the DOL is trapping workers in their 4th, 5th, or 6th year. If this lasts, those employees will legally max out and be forced to leave the country because the company can't file the paperwork needed to extend their visas. And this is not all of it. More is yet to come.

The company already employs something like 10K people at its offices in Chennai, India. I think they figured out a long time ago that if they can’t hire them here, they’ll just hire them there. Apparently, it’s perfectly cool for Indians in India to manage the US network, but Americans working remotely from within America is strictly verboten.

If Comcast goes forward with the rumored layoffs this year then someone should take a closer look at its own internal H1B and PERM filings, why do you employ people in management roles on a visa on a 100 year GC backlog queue depending on their country of filing. Can't you find any US citizen qualified for a Manager, Senior Manager, Director, Executive Director role.

@af This is the only right answer.
The impact to comcast is minimal, if at all. Only a handful of contractors employed by Tata, Infosys etc working for Comcast get their names put in for a greencard. The vast majority of them complete their 6 year tenure as an H1B, and go back

@aa Maybe Comcast might consider trimming the contractors instead of its FTE now

@OP the impact is practically zero. The so-called Permanent Labor Certification required for the filing of I-140 (employment based immigration petition) is separate from the Labor Condition Application required for the filing of I-129 (petition for a non-immigrant worker, H-1B, H-1B1, E3 etc.) It has zero impact on new H-1B filings but jams up those currently on H-1B and getting ready to file I-140. Currently the backlog of EB-2 and EB-3 categories which require PERM, the backlog is 11-12 years for individuals born in India (due to per country quota); if the freeze of PERM processing lasts only a few months, it doesn’t impact the backlog at all, if it continues for years, then the backlog will abruptly shorten at some point but quickly goes back to the normal glacial pace, because each petitioner’s place in line is determined by their Priority Date, which is the day when Permanent Labor Certification application is accepted. Again it has no impact on those applying for a new H-1B visa as well as those already working on H-1B, it simply creates more anxiety and chaos.

@aa my thoughts exactly. Someone mentioned a freeze within the U.S. during this restructuring but you don’t see jobs over there off the job postings. Every large American company is selling out their U.S. workers. Tech careers in general have taken a massive hit across the country due to offshoring and work visas and now maybe it will come back to bite these companies. They are supposedly investigating more than the ones they named today and it’s leading up to what seems like an end or large reform to h1bs. Offshoring has eyes on it too.

@a9 Thanks for explaining. Maybe Comcast should’ve thought about these risks before becoming so dependent on outsourcing while laying off its own employees. Hard to feel sorry for a company when its own decisions come back to bite it.

@a7 We heavily outsource IT, engineering, and support operations to the targeted consulting firms (Cognizant, Infosys, TCS, Wipro, etc.). If these firms experience a sudden brain drain or operational paralysis, our internal infrastructure, ongoing software development, and technical support could face severe disruptions.

I have been watching this movie since y2k days, not surprised at all. They were coming by the plane loads back than, I am sure many well qualified but producing that many computer science graduates in such a short amount of time got to be some sort of record, like China lifting millions out of poverty :-)

Can someone explain to me what this means??