Thread regarding Optum layoffs

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@m5 Yah. Fives and Fours (especially fours) are given out in my department like water to those with the easiest workload. They have tenure, and they're dude bros. The point is that leadership will not pay you more. It's all political. They're playing a different game. The only way to win is to not play at all.

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Post ID: @rt+1m46nz19k

@m1 nah. a dept might be able to give out a single 5 per year. other teams have few enough staff that people are rewarded, other teams too large that it just rotates.

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Post ID: @m5+1m46nz19k

@m1 I get what you are saying...but its also "F U PAY ME." They need to be paying those who do the work, period.

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Post ID: @m3+1m46nz19k

@hz What matters is the work you're actually doing. True, you cannot get raises or a bonus with low ratings, but if you do good work, you have more to say during an interview than someone who postures.

If you're not being rewarded for being a hard worker, leave. Someone who does very little or su-ks at what they do, can only use buzzwords or hypotheticals. Good hiring managers with high performing teams can see it from a mile away. You have specific stories and experience that they don't have. Leverage that, and go where you're appreciated. Don't settle for those who want to keep you hidden and obedient.

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Post ID: @m1+1m46nz19k

@gj so what really matters any more? Certainly can't get raises and bonus with low ratings

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Post ID: @hz+1m46nz19k

@fq Bravos mean nothing. It's all politics. Those who actually do great work never get them, anyway. The ones who everyone is comfortable pushing forward because they are non-threatening do. It became a contest of "If you give me one, I'll give you one." So no one cares. No respectable hiring manager ever cared about how many Bravos were received.

They don't even care about performance ratings anymore because they know that those are also highly political. Those who receive the highest ratings are either close friends with the boss, butt kissers, or pushed forward for being likable and non-threatening. It's about time they started seeing through that. Thank goodness.

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Post ID: @gj+1m46nz19k

Are managers and coworkers still able to recognize good work by filling out a "Bravo!" award? Those used to be tied to points that could be redeemed at a company store. Even though the goods were somewhat dated and overpriced, it was something. I think the points went away though. Now it's more like getting a gold star on your spelling test.

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Post ID: @fq+1m46nz19k

They are also the first ones to get laid off when the work load is low as they need headcount to justify budget ask.

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Post ID: @a7+1m46nz19k

They recognize that you guys, under the pretense of being "top performers", will continue to absorb more and more work.

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Post ID: @a4+1m46nz19k

@OP I agree, it seems the better you do, they do not recognize it unfortunately

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Post ID: @a2+1m46nz19k

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