The UP dispatchers submitted enough A- cards for a vote but the cards were not formatted correctly so no vote
Way to go ATDA
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@292
It’s basic math. But hey, it sounds like we actually agree on something, there are better investments out there. Why would a shareholder keep putting their money into a company where the union and its employees seem determined to squeeze every possible dollar out of the people who actually own the company? At some point, shareholders can simply take their money somewhere it’ll be appreciated instead of constantly being treated like an ATM.
@26v
You're so smart. Wow. Is your daddy a former boss?
3.2 million and only getting 60 k a year? Lmao. Did you use AI to help you in typing a paragraph?
You are a up manager. Im proud of you
@25x @25x Old-money shareholders provide long-term economic stability by prioritizing multigenerational corporate survival, steady capital deployment, and risk management. That’s how wealth gets built and passed down instead of starting over from zero every generation.
Maybe your parents or grandparents should have invested when they had the chance. Or, instead of complaining about people who did, you could do your job, invest for yourself, and give your own children a better starting point.
Take the money you’re already spending on union dues, fired insurance, and health insurance and invest the equivalent amount in NSC. Historically, that kind of consistent investment over 15 years could have grown to around $300,000. Leave that money invested for another 15 years without adding another dime and you’re looking at roughly $1.25 million. Keep it for 25 years and you’re around $3.2 million—generating roughly $60,000 a year in dividends at the current yield.
That’s the difference between complaining about other people’s investments and actually becoming an investor yourself.
Just because your ancestors didn’t think to build an investment portfolio for their descendants doesn’t mean you have to continue the tradition. You can break the cycle.
@211 you are right, nobody owes the SHAREHOLDERS anything!!!!!! Those who dont work, those who dont contribute physically, those who dont trade their precious time on this earth are not owed(!) anything! Those who want to give a little bit of money, and after a small period of time get more money back for just waiting around on their a-s arent owed jack squat compared to those who actually showed up and worked.
@1nq you people aren’t guaranteed anything. That’s life. If you don’t like it, find another job. The days of sitting around at the same job for your entire life is over. Find other sources of retirement income. No one owes you anything. The older generation needs a reality check.
Train Dispatchers are getting weak now
@188 Several dispatchers have had their careers cut short just before reaching retirement, which has had a significant impact on their Railroad Retirement benefits. Many of those dispatchers opposed the union because their primary concern was protecting their company pension. In doing so, they may have overlooked an equally important part of the retirement equation: completing the years of service needed to maximize their Railroad Retirement Board (RRB) benefits.
The company pension is certainly important, but it is also important to understand that the company can change or stop making contributions to the pension plan. Without the protections of a collective bargaining agreement, continued funding is not guaranteed.
Voting for union representation does not mean dispatchers lose their pension. The company may simply choose not to make additional contributions going forward, depending on the terms of the plan and any applicable agreement.
At the end of the day, completing a full career, maximizing Railroad Retirement benefits, and having access to quality health care should be among the most important considerations when thinking about retirement security.
Not too many years ago they sent a bunch of dispatchers home . Layed off most of the high paid 1 that had worked there a long time .
Hopefully, the UP dispatchers will move forward with the ATDA. The current management regime has been dismal for the HDC, and a major concern has been JRE’s manipulation of policies in ways that negatively affect people’s lives.
Now, he wants dispatchers to join a council so they can discuss ways to make things better. That’s quite a contradiction given the current situation.
It’s time for meaningful representation and accountability. Vote for representation and put an end to this management boondoggle.
The A cards were valid. The same format has been accepted and successfully used on numerous other railroad properties. In this case, UP’s position appears to have been an attempt to avoid allowing its train dispatchers to vote.
Rather than wait for a ruling from the NMB—which could potentially be delayed until February, when a third board member is expected to be confirmed by the Senate—the ATDA is resubmitting the A cards with only the most basic, undisputed information. This should eliminate the issues raised by UP and allow the two-member NMB to move forward with the process of giving UP dispatchers the opportunity to vote in an election.
if this is true, somebody was paid to make that mistake.