Appalled by KE outbursts on hybrid work
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Only nepotic sub-continent interlopers are hired in today's market.
They need to get rid of SBC right away. Fix the stock first then worry about the rest!
Get rid of enterprise architecture and anyone with time to waste going to guild meetings and hackathons. Everyone should be charging 40 hours per week to charge codes in workday not playing around on the company's dime. They can play around at home.
@259 I am in total agreement. Look at the Enterprise Architecture team. All very old people, who know that their knowledge is of no value outside and so clinging on to their roles. They are ensuring their safety by objecting any change, that would make Sabre better.
@27r Thanks for the tips and the concern. The 6 months wait was not for want of an offer. It was to get a job that I would love to do for a company that I admire a lot. I should have their offer next week.
@25z I will share my experience, maybe I was just lucky, but my willingness to leave was so high and I did not want to be a player in this miserable game, so I resigned before having a new job....It took me just 16 days to get a new one ( I hacked the system) I developed my own Python library to scrape the web, and sent my CV across companies with open positions that I could fit into, in total I got 13 interviews, 4 final stages, and 3 job offers and definitely I chose the one that best fit my needs. From my side, good luck with your search but my suggestion is not to be a player in this miserable game, If you have had enough, just make the step.
@259 And what makes you think people are not trying ? A poor job market is playing against a lot of them. I, personally, am close to getting an offer after trying for close to 6 months. I know several others who are attempting to get out. I am not saying you are completely wrong. But, you definitely are way over generalizing.
@23t I do not think I am generalising as much as you say. I am describing what I saw just before leaving. Of course there are exceptions, but honestly I really struggle to see who is still left that does not fit into one of these categories:
1)no real market value 2) outdated or weak skills 3)no courage to change
Who exactly do you think is still there that does not fall into one of those three?
as you said .... If your life as an employee there is miserable, then leave. Find a way to make it better instead of playing the miserable game the CEO and his friends are pushing on everyone. No one is chained to that place.
@231 You are generalising a lot by making assumptions which may be true for some proportion of people but definitely not for a significant chunk. The pre-pandemic hybrid work mode was not across the company. I know of several teams where there was nothing like that ( not talking about teams where people were/are expected to work from office - occ, care etc. ). As for the management, the less said the better. They are a bunch of clowns, starting with the ceo, who are taking advantage of the poor tech job market to make people’s lives miserable.
@22y I’ve worked there for almost 10 years too, so I’m not speaking as an outsider.
The world may have changed after the pandemic, but hybrid work is not some exotic concept that suddenly appeared in 2020. We already had 1–2 remote days years ago (that is why I compared 2017 to 2025), and it worked just fine. What changed is not “reality”, it is management using buzzwords to justify decisions that are clearly about control and cost cutting, not collaboration. I have seen good people working there, professional and smart, but almost all of them are gone now. The ones who stayed either 1) have no market value, 2) lack the skills, or 3) do not have the courage to change.
@22n Comparing 2025 to 2017 may sound logical but is impractical. The world has changed post the pandemic by quite a lot. While there are jobs in Sabre in which people are struck with technology from the 80s there are also others where people enjoy their work. I have been with the company for 10 years and have enjoyed every day of my tenure. Like the person before you said, this back to office mandate has been crafted with the sole purpose of making people’s life miserable and force them to leave. All the collaboration and networking BS is just that.. BS.
I honestly do not understand what the supposed “problem” with hybrid work is. Back in 2017 we already had 1–2 days of remote work, and nobody made a drama out of it. Sometimes it feels like some people are secretly hoping for another pandemic just so they can work in pajamas and slippers again. Let’s be clear. The people who stayed at Sabre are not exactly the ones bursting with personal ambition or a real desire to change and challenge themselves. I left Sabre last year. I work more now, but I am much happier. I have real independence and my voice actually counts. What I left behind were colleagues who were very comfortable doing the bare minimum, with outdated technical skills stuck in the mainframe era. The people who actually had quality and potential mostly found jobs somewhere else.....
This is how "forever layoffs" are created. Companies are making your life progressively more miserable so you just can't take it anymore and quit. An thanks to that they don't need to announce mass layoffs or pay severance packages.
@15g that does seem to explain everything
KE has a FUPA
Sc--w the work from the office. They decided to cut our vcp which is the more important. Wonder if they cut the vps for them self?
@jn There was this question asked on Q&A, but they just answered "You don't need to come to the office when you are on PTO" and then they laughed.
And if you're on vacation Monday and Tuesday then you must come into the office on Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday?
Maybe?
If the policy really is "be in the office 3 days per week but with some exceptions" then that policy and the exceptions should be made clear. There must be some exceptions, so what are they?
Of course they have badge data. How do you think they know who to send the $10 cafeteria gift cards to...
So, if you're on vacation monday through friday then you have spend 3 of those 5 vacation days in the office?
Taking the concept of a "staycation" a bit extreme.
Oh, and the townhall itself was terrible and full of denial. Market reaction was positive? How about look at the stock price!
Of all the issues with KE, and there are tons, this is one where he is reasonable. 1. It was a stupid question for the townhall - why would PTO count towards day in office! 2. Market outside has changed, and he is right that most companies have gone back to no remote + Covid is past, 3. There are bigger problems with the company than WFH! Missing numbers and stock tanking should be more important than coming to a physical office, 4. How many times has this or a similar question been asked previously. Clearly the person asking is moonlighting.
Please leave if you are not happy. Freakin losers probably stand no chance in the job market against the bests (layoffs) from Microsoft and Amazon.
@cy have heard in person from an ELT member that they have badge data and ‘would start’ looking at it. there have been pushes at other sites to stop tailgating through security doors, so they have cleaner data
That was a rant of an arrogant pr--k who knows the job market isn’t great. Sitting alongside that HR guy who seems as far from what employees on the ground think as anything. Also, I know for a fact that badge swipe numbers are being looked at. So the ceo either lied through his teeth or is just plain ignorant about what HR is doing.
It was big words from someone who doesn't even live in DFW. KE lives in New Jersey, so his blunt comments were very hypocritical.
@b3 someone asked an innocent question about doing 3 days in office in a week where they are taking 1-2 days PTO and he interpreted that as dissent against the hybrid policy
What happened?
KE seems unaware on the number of remote jobs still there.
Viator, Revolut, Atlassian and others. He seems to be forgetting that remote jobs are available from all over the world...