Layoff discussions and fearmongering exists at SAP not because the company doesn't have money to pay the employees. It exists because the company doesn't have enough money to satisfy the personal greed of the executive board and career politicians. We need less dragons and more knights at SAP. And I am extremely disappointed with employees who get distracted by nonsensical issues such as trans people at SAP, CK fans who support CK no matter what, managers who have not written a single line of code in their life but manage technical architects, hatred towards Indians at Signavio, SAP employees at WDF and ROT who don't want anyone in other locations to grow, the spineless supervisory board that only wants to maximize executive bonuses, the even more spineless works council members that protect pedophiles and SA abusers but not the victims, performance management which disrespectfully treats employees as children and only managers as adults, the AI token count duck measuring competition that is not helping the business one bit, etc. WHEN WILL THIS END?
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@133 you must never have been to NSQ then. 90% of the office are Indians, and that might be a conservative number. Not that there’s anything wrong with that but it is what it is.
There are a lot of sad, old, white men here. I can understand that they want to retain their jobs, and this is totally fair. However, please do not block young, keen employees from creating the future.
And due to the demoscopics of the workforce, I am sorry to say that the future is no longer German.
Can we please stop attacking ethnic groups? Thank you.
@1af SAP should retain the Indians and fire every known AfD clown, right Tommy?
Indians commit the highest cash remittances back overseas. India's greatest export is its people. Not new technologies, or value-added goods. They have issues with Sikh Khalistanis, Dalits, people perceived as low caste, Pakistanis, etc. So in effect you're importing ethnic tensions. They also never forgive and forget what the Euro British did to their country during colonial times. Millions starved and pillaging by them. Illegal dumping, snapping sneaky explicit photos of women on buses, cause of mass layoffs, VISA scandals, etc. You can understand the fatigue Westerners deal with.
But who is the India hater on this forum? They are so persistent.
Corporate line managers are remarkable species: even when they are sick, they somehow find the energy to show up to a one-on-one and say something unpleasant. Expecting human interaction from them is like expecting a printer to show sympathy for your deadlines.
@13v They are probably paid russian trolls, what i don't understand is what they get out of posting all this cr-p all over an anon forum for layoffs at sap
Don‘t troll.
@133 all indians at Signavio must be laid off
CK will do the needful…
SAP needs to do something about all of this.
First of all, I don‘t mind Indians. Or any other culture. However, when you walk through the offices in Waldorf or Roth, it seems as if more than 30% of people are Indian.
Indians also flood the trains, cafes and shops around here, especially in Heiddelberg.
SAP can hire as many Indians as they like, in India. Here in Germany, they are simply too many.
And I do not vote AFD or any such nasty stuff. But there are simply too many.
According to this post, if you're a woman and you don't want to share the restroom with a man then you're part of the problem.
I love that conversations like this are still happening at SAP. Maybe the place is so miserable because people spend all day arguing about politics instead of doing their jobs?
I can only imagine what role OP has. I guarantee he/she barely contributes.
Would it help if SAP hired more Indians?
@rr I still have trust in the board, but it was a lot higher when Vishal was on the board.
@h1 it's harder to get rid of Indians so we need to ask all managers to give them the lowest possible performance ratings. That will put them on a PIP in 2027 and make it easier to get rid of them.
@cw At least they are getting rid of all Indians at Signavio so it is okay.
It will end when Chuck is fed up with the situation.
It will end when the entire board and cpa are removed and replaced by people not from core SAP. The old boys club of SAP uni -> intern -> exec drives this culture. Having said that the silicon valley tech bro culture is no better for the world
@b6 trust your board
@b6 whether they do a good job or a bad job, the supervisory board and HR will reduce budget for employee appraisals so they can allocate more money to executive bonuses.
I think the board is doing a good job.
Sap is a government company . Don’t expect anything more . They cannot even do a proper layoff . 70% get hired back in some other role . Sap only works because of its old systems . Ai agents no customer will pay for it . All BS