You can collect unemployment if given a non-renewal. FYI

Yes it's a pick your battle situation. The real issue is that Utah is a "Right-To-Work" state, and because of that workers aren't allowed to form a union where one presently doesn't exist. All instances of employment are no longer considered... — read more 

So its some stale overpaid nanny biyatch workforce services purse string retainer, hr dragon, inept mgr, rotational corp boss, or the like.....just try not to get fired.

God complex indeed, even though ut docs state a voluntary layoff agreement is still reduction in force. Take your pick in who you want to fight with i suppose. Fk 'em, they still have to send you on your way with $ if you get laid off and the burden... — read more 

Hello all :-) @The Truth Thank you! After reading your post I was inspired to do some research into unemployment and what i have found scares me away from signing the VSO. I initially decided to sign it and accept my fate with L3. But now i decided... — read more 

Here is what some experts say .......... Can I collect unemployment if I get fired in Utah? ..... Regardless of how you left your job, you can always file for unemployment benefits. Whether you’ll get those benefits is another story. Unemployment... — read more 

Can't dispute it - "If a claimant leaves work prior to the date of an impending reduction of force, the separation is a quit. Notice of an impending layoff does not establish good cause for leaving work."

Read current rules people

As in effect on June 1, 2013 R994-405-106. Quit or Discharge. (2) Leaving Prior to Effective Date of Termination. (a) If a claimant leaves work prior to the date of an impending reduction of force, the separation is a quit. Notice of an impending... — read more 

Utah Admin Code R994-405-106. (12) Voluntary Acceptance of Layoff. If the employer wishes to reduce its workforce and gives the employees the option to volunteer for the layoff, those who do volunteer are separated due to reduction of force... — read more 

There are "information" meetings over the next several days. It will be interesting to hear about unemployment eligibility. Also, how does this package compare to the previous round of layoffs? If the only real incentive is $3k, that's not really... — read more 

People, People, People... Here is the steps that will be taken just before a forced reduction in workforce (i.e layoff). Step #1 Offering A Voluntary Separation. Step #2 Offering Early Retirement. Step #3 Department Shuffling. Step #4 Forced... — read more 

People, People, People... Here is the steps that will be taken just before a forced reduction in workforce (i.e layoff). Step #1 Offering A Voluntary Separation. Step #2 Offering Early Retirement. Step #3 Department Shuffling. Step #4 Forced... — read more 

People, People, People... Here is the steps that will be taken just before a forced reduction in workforce (i.e layoff). Step #1 Offering A Voluntary Separation. Step #2 Offering Early Retirement. Step #3 Department Shuffling. Step #4 Forced... — read more 

QUESTIONS: #1 Was there a severance in the last round of INvoluntary layoffs? If so, what was it? #2 Is there likely to be a severance with the next round of INvoluntary layoffs? Again, if so, what might it be?

Yeahh A-Swen is the worst.. ftr, his PDA reviews are like this: "I think a "3" is really a "2" in my world. So, to get a "doing good job, solid performer" in his world you have to get a "4". LOL....... sounded like he wanted to swear allegiance to... — read more 

Me have finger in bum! MMMMMMmmmmmm, feel good! Adjust antenna! Mmmmmmmm! Full power???? Mmmmmmm! Me like adjust antenna! Bum feel GOOOOODDDDDD!!!!! Mmmmmm, help me engineeeeer! Me bum need feel good. Me lose job? WHAT? me like corn.

Bring it bring it bring it...this is going to be soooo exciting!!!

I am the eye in the sky Looking at you I can read your mind I am the maker of rules Dealing with fools I can cheat you blind And I don't need to see any more To know that I can read your mind, I can read your mind Don't leave false illusions behind... — read more 

@Anonymous Hey big dummy, get your facts straight before calling people names. Opp is not the CSW Division President but she is STILL the CS Group President.

Last week L3 CS west announced two new vice presidents. We went from no middle mangagement 5 years ago to now having a manager over 4 to 6 people and the managers charge overhead and that takes away from the bottom line. It makes me angry that we... — read more 

I keep trying to post here but it does not seem to work and why can't we reply to others comments? This next lay off scares the hell out of. 16 years in September. 40 years of experience. I think I make too much money to be honest, but I keep getting... — read more 

Look at east all proud after CSW had to fix them ... Please

Worst manager ever...

Swensen isn't the problem

Frank Lanza was L3. Now we have used car salesmen. cheap vendor parts. got accustomed to seeing "Wins/Losses: Nothing to Report" for three years....Relocating ? to Utah ? LMAO I don't care how many wives i can have. CSW has 51% share and CSE... — read more 

I have a glass of pee in my bottom drawer behind some folders... have fun cleaning my desk out! Also, I'd wipe your hands with lysol disinfectant after touching any of the drawer handles....

Why so many drastic changes from val ? If Susan was so weak in making these decisions why is she the CS group president? She should be at the top of the lay off list. Over $40 million in negative under her watch and she still has her job.

You can get a good look at a T-bone steak by sticking your head in a BULL's ass, but wouldn't you rather take the butcher's WORD for it?

Why would CSE work be conglomerated at CSW?

@lab worker: sounds like a normal day in the labs and compounds.... if he stays you should go.

Yeah the weasel of weasels---Ops. wanna-be-manager Alvin Swensen is trashing everyone trying to take the focus off of himself surfing the internet! Watch your backs!

PDA's are almost done. HR will compile list in aug for September layoffs. Everything has to happen Q3 so the bottom line looks good.

PDA's are almost done. HR will compile list in aug for September layoffs. Everything has to happen Q3 so the bottom line looks good.

And so it begins: Keep an eye out for management "creating" disciplinary moments. If you notice people in the area better make yourself scarce or be on the lookout for your "management" coming over and drilling you about how you are committing time... — read more 

Reduction in Force phase two will be up to 1/3 rd of all csw workforce. 1/3 * 4100 = 1300 heads. Look now for better opportunities and prepare for the worse.

Miteq purchase is almost certain - I heard it from way to many sources so it got to be true

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Any truth to L-3 buying Miteq. What bonehead came up with that idea.