Thread regarding Verizon Communications Inc. layoffs

Good by to all, best luck

I'm not going to make this cut, it was nice working with the fine employees at my garage. Partly of my decision I've chose to leave, I cant constantly attack my very productive employees, let it be known we are told to ( if you cant find a problem create one, get them off the books ). I cant in good conscious do this to employees that day in and day out put themselves their families, friends and life on hold for a company that considers them a deficit.

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The racial makeup of verizon mgmt is beside the point, and you will never get them on that because they know how to play diversity games.

Besides, they don't care about having all "white people" working for the company, in fact they probably prefer to promote minority because it "proves" they are not racist and that way the government think they are a nice company! The only "white people" they worry about are fellow execs at the highest levels. Other than that they wouldn't care what color you are, you are just cannon fodder to use and throw away.

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Post ID: @4nmv+Fsda4qq

hmmm ... management chain here was all black at one time. All 3 local managers, area manager, district manager and VP. All but one are still employed albeit in different areas. The one who was let go was part of a RIF and it was purely monetary because he was pulling in 2nd level pay while performing 1st level duties. The few techs who are black or female never seem to receive any sort of discipline. And, there's been plenty doled out. But, let's damn the white devil for making them so powerless.

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Post ID: @4mfr+Fsda4qq

Hey genius, whites are the minority here. White males even more so. We have promoted so many races and females here that know jack shit about anything telcom into positions of power. Then they have to prove how powerful they are and yet do very little to contribute to the business. Both sides of the biz have been doing this for a long time. Now their are more f*cking morons here than smart people. White wash my ass. You are totally clueless.

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Post ID: @3vni+Fsda4qq

3kby is a complete idiot and does not know much about the company and its diversity games. Whites can easily makes the same claims. It is all of this diversity BS, discriminating against everyone in order to reduce discrimination.

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Post ID: @3jsd+Fsda4qq

3kby is a complete idiot and does not know much about the company and its diversity games. Whites can easily makes the same claims. It is all of this diversity BS, discriminating against everyone in order to reduce discrimination.

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Post ID: @3skt+Fsda4qq

Racial division is a tool of the 1%, that is why it is in our media 24/7. There can be no solidarity with racial division, and solidarity is what they fear most of all.

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Post ID: @3gne+Fsda4qq

Verizon is a racist and bigoted entity that discriminates against race, creed, class and color. They are a contributor to poverty in this company in spite of making millions off the poor and middle class including their hard working employees that they use up and spit out without regard or respect. They do not want to lose their contracts with the Federal government so they use layoffs as a way to get rid of people of color and those that they do not personally care for. Then days after layoffs they post the same jobs they claim they could no longer support (hence the lay offs) and hire our Caucasian brothers and sisters and their friends so they can white wash the company under the radar. Don't believe it look at their executive board. You may find one spot of color and trust me they are being used as a token. I can't wait until this house of cards falls like Enron.

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Post ID: @3kby+Fsda4qq

Lets not change the subject.

Lets remember who started this, who is continuing it on a daily basis,who lies to the public, who bought off the press, who ripped off the American people and bribed our government to get away with it.

And now who is determined to break the union.

Read some Bruce Kushnick he details all of it.

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Post ID: @3sie+Fsda4qq

I am -3yfl. I am Services Tech. Copper and Fiber trained. Have held a few positions here.

This is not BS or union bashing, it's factual, proven, work life here for outside guys. Furthermore, I am a father, husband,brother,and now a uncle who is college educated. I am a hard working family man that has made many sacrifices for Bell and verizon, like many others on all sides. I do not lie, cheat or steal. I have values.

I am backed into a corner here as all the techs are. Any tech here will freely tell you what happens here at verizon. Come meet some of us at happy hour and chat us up. You will leave wondering how this company gets away with this crap.

The fear of retaliation is very high! Why? Because it is real. This company will stop at nothing to hammer us. NOTHING!

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Post ID: @3rof+Fsda4qq

The union will not allow a big EISP, no members no dues.

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Post ID: @3rlz+Fsda4qq

CWA Local 13000, 13500 for starters.

The local union VP came to a work location for a meeting and blamed the "membership" or techs to their face. It's our fault because we don't file grievances with the union. REALLY? Tommy Boy? I have been ripped off for pay, overtime, differential , LTW lunch time worked, mileage. Because my boss "didn't think it should take that long" or " didn't believe I was at that location actually doing company work" (thats how the get around the GPS shows me there argument from the union). We have filed numerous grievances that go absolutely nowhere. I thought the grievant was allowed to sit in on the meeting between the union and the company? THAT WAS WON IN AN ARBITRATION several years ago because it's my grievance. But nooooooo doesn't happen, too many back door deals.

And it's the techs fault.......sounds just like my boss. many many many union members here believe the union was bought off. Managers here do whatever they want, and to be honest, why wouldn't they when they know there is no more resistance from the union. I have over 20 years here and I want the hell out of here ASAP. NEGOTIATE A BIG EISP and many members here with time will get out of here.

I'll say it again in case you think I misspoke, NEGOTIATE A BIG EISP for your membership and this place will be a ghost town on the wireline side.

I was always pro FTWP, IBEW, CWA, but what has happened here is an atrocity.

There is language in the contract about forced overtime yet If I do not work six, twelve hour days I get suspended. The union hall actually disconnected their voice mail because so many members are calling to complain.

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Post ID: @3yfl+Fsda4qq

No one said the union was allowing anything.

We are not criticizing the union,but the company.

It takes time for the union to go through the legal process.

Its not like they can just throw a manager in the back of a van and beat the crap out of him.

Who knows? Maybe Verizon are being investigated by outside parties as we speak.

These things take time, meanwhile the company reign of terror continues

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Post ID: @3aiw+Fsda4qq

the lunch thing was explained in the post by 2ucn.

In every job, union or not, you are expected back on the job at the end of your lunch hour.

the difference being as a field tech your job location always changes, so this is the issue and maybe this is being challenged by the union somewhere i don't know.

Personally, if I were between jobs at lunch, I would not start travelling to my next job until 1, but I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to suspend me for something like that in the current atmosphere.The work rules they hand out state on job at end of lunch hour.

Obviously you do not have a union job in the field if you believe this is a far-fetched story.

Obviously you have no idea of what is going on.

You want to talk illegal, there were managers not even paying techs for straight time worked.

You probably don't believe that either but it is a true story I know for a fact.

In the case I am talking about the union was bringing a case against this manager when suddenly the manager "retired".

But the company did all they could to make it look like it had nothing to do with the union.

Those are the facts, I choose not to name names.

You don't want to believe it? Then don't. Who cares what you believe you scab.

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Post ID: @3zuv+Fsda4qq

3jjp, what local are you in?

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Post ID: @3yiu+Fsda4qq

3pnu I will tell you it is the fact. It is not lies. and if it's company bad mouthing, so be it, it is the truth. With everything in this company we are afraid to identify ourselves for fear of reprisals. That's why we are here as Anonymous. But this is finally someplace to come to, and find conman ground, that others are going through the exact same thing, and that this is a company wide orchestrated harassment of employees, and not just one Local or area. Verizon's work place has become an oppressive place to be.

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Post ID: @3jjp+Fsda4qq

3nih, what local is not doing it's job? Until one is named, it's all hearsay.

So, again, what local's members are being supposedly forced to work without compensation?

The silence is deafening.

Until someone, anyone, names names as to where this is occurring, it's all lies as far as I'm concerned, just more union badmouthing without any legs.

So, 2edm, or 2vch, or 2hyv, or 3yls, put your money where your big mouth is AND NAME A LOCAL.

Otherwise, you're lying to make the union look bad.

Without a local attached to this, it ain't happening, anywhere, anyhow.

I hope this puts this BS to rest.

Union people working uncompensated against their will, and facing disciplinary action for not doing so. What a joke.

Never happened, never will, you shills.

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Post ID: @3aqr+Fsda4qq

Sounds like the union isn't doing a good job of protecting its members. What are members paying dues for, certainly not a contract or grievances. Members speak up, don't let the union and the Company both walk all over you.

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Post ID: @3nih+Fsda4qq

No 3yls, I'll tell you the point.

If any Local is allowing this nonsense to occur to union members, they then need to be named.

Otherwise, as far as I am concerned, it's all lies. Just unjustified company badmouthing.

So, put your money where your mouth is, or stop the ridiculous false rumor of union people working here without compensation.

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Post ID: @3pnu+Fsda4qq

mub...I think it has been explained pretty thoroughly at this point. The question is who are you and what job do you do for the company if you don't know this is happening all the time.

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Post ID: @3yls+Fsda4qq

You techs that are allegedly being forced to work during portions of your non-paid lunch period, are you CWA members or IBEW members, or neither? If you are, what Local is allowing this to occur?

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Post ID: @2mub+Fsda4qq

In Verizon the customer comes last. The Tech is forced to work by these Verizon work rules, which are absolutely outrages and screws the hell out of the customer, and if you don't follow these rules to the letter, you will be suspended. It's so unproductive and impossible to complete a work day. I'm thinking it has to be designed to make you fail. It's so sad.

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Post ID: @2reu+Fsda4qq

Working here is like working at Walmart in regard to pay. Management shorts techs paychecks intentionally and then tells techs "you make good money, wait until your next paycheck for the fix." THAT IS ILLEGAL!!! Also it never gets fixed. Vz needs exposed. If you try to talk to your boss in the morning about it they throw you out of the building 20 minutes after the start of your tour. The union is USELESS. Complain to HR and they call your boss after they put you on hold. They use fear to make you work through your lunch. Constant GPS tracking. Know what a SABIT report is ? Constant computerized monitoring and tracking of your vehicle GPS, LapTop function, Tablet Functions, Cell Phone usage, swipe card usage. To what end? Not for productivity, no sir. Its used to discipline and fire field techs unjustly. Frame up some would call it. Absolutely this is the truth.

Yeah the techs are f---ing pissed off. And they should be. The management here is super disgusting. What a shit bag company to work for now.

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Post ID: @2upc+Fsda4qq

2hyv YES! this is not B.S. it is the fact! Most Techs do not put their tools down at 12 Noon (mid tour) like the company DEMANDS you too. It's horrible customer service!!! Imagine walking out of a customers home, telling them it's not finished, but I'm going to lunch.. see you in an Hour. The Tech finishes the job to the customers satisfaction. He/She notifies his manager that he will be taking a late lunch. If approved..and alot of times it's NOT APPROVED! .you then notify your manager when job is complete..they also see it in your close out. Your lunch clock starts ticking....Your next job is 35 minutes away... Tough luck... better be GPS'd at that next job within 60 minutes EXACTLY or your suspended. It's embarrassing to say but most Technicians DO TAKE A LUNCH. and the company knows this.

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Post ID: @2vus+Fsda4qq

I can tell you for a fact that it is not B.S. Those are the work rules they hand out.

It is probably because in a normal job, say in a factory, you are expected back on the job at the end of the hour.

Your time traveling back to the factory comes out of your lunch hour.

As a field tech however, part of your job is traveling from one location to another.

Therefore, you have no set work location, the company tries to use this against people.

Someone will probably have to challenge this.

In times of peace, many field techs would take a late lunch rather than walk out on a customer mid-job.

That just works better in the field, take breaks between jobs.

Today the company is more concerned with being petty about an unpaid lunch hour than they are with the out of service customer.

There used to be respect between managers and techs who did the right thing by our customer, today there is no respect, you are guilty until proven innocent.

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Post ID: @2ucn+Fsda4qq

2edm, I'm calling BS on your assertion that unionized technicians are being compelled to work during an unpaid lunch hour, under the threat of disciplinary implications.

If you are not going to be paid for your lunch period, you cannot be compelled to perform work duties, and there is not a union on this earth that would allow a situation of unpaid work to go unaddressed.

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Post ID: @2hyv+Fsda4qq

@Fsda4qq-2edm, I'm calling BS on your assertion that unionized technicians are being force to work during an unpaid lunch hour. If you are not going to be paid for your lunch period, you cannot be compelled to perform duties, and there is not a union on this earth that would allow a situation of unpaid work to go unaddressed.

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Post ID: @2czl+Fsda4qq

The lunch thing is especially ridiculous. how can you have a lunch hour if you are expected to spend it traveling to the next job?

Then they send you company emails about your health and diet...they care!

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Post ID: @2lvd+Fsda4qq

Tech suspended for taking off his safety glasses before his tool belt at his vehicle....Safety Rule...Safety glasses must be worn at all times when belt is on. Gotcha!

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Post ID: @2cbn+Fsda4qq

Off the Job.....The Company expects you to drive between jobs, on YOUR lunch break. If you end a job with a customer at 12 noon and your next job is 20 minutes away driving time, you have to be in front of the customers house by the GPS at exactly 1 pm. In other words, you have to spend your unpaid lunch time driving to your next job. If your not there at EXACTLY 1 pm your considered Off the Job and suspended for up to 30 days. Sometimes with traffic you can spend your entire lunch time driving to your next job with no lunch at all. You will be suspended if your GPS is not there at Exactly 1 pm.

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Post ID: @2edm+Fsda4qq

Someone should gather the most egregious examples of suspensions and expose this company. I have heard the following write ups, walking to slow to dump trash, driving with one hand, leaving the shop 20 min after dispatch, on and on.

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Post ID: @2pbf+Fsda4qq

Sickening. !!

For the Mgr that posted about leaving, Congratulations on getting out. It is absolutely disgusting how the field techs are treated. They are harassed every minute of every day. The is no right way with this greedy company. If you are on the good side there is nothing to worry about. However if you are a great tech but do not kiss as_ you are no good and will be suspended for walking the wrong way. This company better wake up before something really bad happens. You can not destroy a person and expect no retaliation. It is coming some day !

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Post ID: @2ubk+Fsda4qq

Any and all employees, wire line and wireless, if you are being treated unjustly, should be calling or filing an online EEO complaint against the management. The contact information: 1-800-856-1885 or verizonguideline.com. Reports can be filed. anonymously. Stand up for yourself, don't allow this company to brake us.

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Post ID: @2fgr+Fsda4qq

The real truth is that to the current executive management, if there is a wire connected to it, than that business must be trashed. Bunch of sick SOBs. I do hope the street starts holding these BS-artists accountable for their lack of vision and even worse management and customer service skills.

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Post ID: @2ynm+Fsda4qq

Lowell is a thug. I am suprised he hasnt been the victim of something violent.

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Post ID: @2ppi+Fsda4qq

The current upper management are evil people and that's all there is to it.

The entire QAR program is designed, not to better serve the customer, but to create an atmosphere of fear, where workers are afraid they will suddenly be suspended for 30 business days.. 6 weeks with no pay for some trivial infraction. Its almost worse than being fired. All because these workers have labored for 20, 30, 40 years for the company and they hope to collect the pensions they have been promised all those years.

I heard Lowell Mcadam express his disdain for perpetrators of domestic violence, but what is he if not a bully?

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Post ID: @1eho+Fsda4qq

The unfair discipline that goes on at Verizon field technician positions is reprehensible. May I remind the company that those technicians are the very reason that Verizon has had it's success. Without them doing what they do hands on everyday, There would be no Verizon. It is the infrastructure that they built, and maintain and install which delivers the products of Verizon. Without that infrastructure there would no customers. It is the customer that the technician see's face to face everyday, that generates the money that comes into Verizon period. They truly are the front-line face of Verizon. Why would you kick and hurt that? They deliver what to company promises.

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Post ID: @1uns+Fsda4qq

On conference calls they celebrate giving techs time off, that's a fact. Managers are singled out if they rarely give suspensions.

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Post ID: @1lqj+Fsda4qq

Yes, definitely they were told to go after " will be Rif'd employees" I couldn't believe, how my manager treated me. Make me look like dumb.

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Post ID: @1wij+Fsda4qq

Same here. My AD and his "lick-my-ass" manager was told to (I guess) to go after me. No matter how major accomplishment I had they would highlight my non-impacting procedural oversight. There were time when I worked 24 hours straight during production on-call and release night. Thanks God I was Riff'ed on Nov 5, 2015.

Having much better life now with much higher pay , self-esteem and time for family. Only regret now I have is why I suffered torture for 5 years (2010-2015)..

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Post ID: @1uzf+Fsda4qq

I think you were a manager and forced to find a problem about your employees, same here my manager who has been my supervisor for a long time, has been trying to find a problem each thing I did. I thought he was told to do so. No wonder I was Rif'd.

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