Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

Employees are spending on RTO, and growing more resentful than ever

Employees are spending the equivalent of a month’s grocery bill on the return to the office–and growing more resentful than ever, new survey finds.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/employees-spending-equivalent-month-grocery-114844452.html

This is what AT&T leadership doesn't want to acknowledge. No one I know thought RTO was necessary, a productivity improvement, or anything other than a veiled force reduction.

For me, the monetary and emotional costs of selling a house, moving children in grade and high school and elders dependent on having us nearby, all of it was higher than a good raise with a Connection Award could cover, even with the better relo package. (I have more than one, and that should tell you I'm not a slacker).

I wasn't offered relo, so that made the decision easy. Just like Stankey wanted it.

Glad to see from press reports and this forum I'm not the only one seeing it. One has to wonder where the shareholders are, and why the CEO has not been replaced.

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Looking back, this is so funny, and perfectly predicted.

I remember when they were making a big show of "workplace 2020".
They were pounding us with pictures of very young 20-year-olds standing around, talking with each other, maybe 6 or 8 standing around a table watching the laptop screen of one person sitting down at the laptop. Also pictures of these twenty-somethings playing pool in the "workplace 2020" area. It was like a common room in a dorm, everybody just dropping in and visiting. They all seemed to be having such a good time in the workplace, but rarely was any work ever shown in the promotion for the "workplace 2020" ads.

I remember we all had to just shake our heads and laugh at what they were obviously marketing to.

And now, we just shake our heads and say "Guess what, they wanted thousands of people with no experience or knowledge, who have never worked a job, to just stand around and brag about how "qualified?" they are. And you know what, THEY GOT IT !!!

AAAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!

In the employee race to the bottom, WE'RE WINNING !!!

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Post ID: @5haw+1qTHQogj

Stankey = Stupid

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Post ID: @5boz+1qTHQogj
  • “Anyone who is really interested in a work environment instead of an unsupervised high school study hall should insist that all their "collaborating" be done on their own time and outside of the office.

Yes, we who have to work next to them refer to that area as the nursery school, it's so obvious that a very small percentage do any work at all, most of them are just roaming around visiting and trying to impress each other about their college education, but somehow can't seem to understand working at a job... p1tiful......”

I agree with this coming from a software engineer, obviously we do have meetings and plan out features, architecture, etc but a lot of that can also be done over text in teams (as it is) and a lot more of your time should be spent coding, writing documentation, doing research, etc.

The people obsessed with collaboration and spending all their time organizing DEI meetings and pushing this return to office are social butterflies who don’t actually really do sh-t.

I’m at my job to get sh-t done, I could care less about ‘culture’ or ‘giving back’ how bout Stankey gives me back some cash in more connection awards and bigger raises?
That’s the kind of ‘giving back’ I like.

I’m here for two reasons, to make things, and make money. If my activities don’t facilitate one of those two things, I don’t do it.

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Post ID: @3ket+1qTHQogj

boo hoo, before covid we were going into the office 5 days/week for the most part. 3 days in the office is a bonus, and lesss expense than pre-covid

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Post ID: @3ers+1qTHQogj

'"RTO equates to getting to office at 8:30 "

Why so early?'

Because if you don't you're sitting in a cafeteria. if you're lucky. seats fill up except for fridays before 9.

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" so loud and noisy and incessant chatter "
That's what the widdle bab1es call collaborating, anything to avoid them actually sitting down and doing some work.

Anyone who is really interested in a work environment instead of an unsupervised high school study hall should insist that all their "collaborating" be done on their own time and outside of the office.

Yes, we who have to work next to them refer to that area as the nursery school, it's so obvious that a very small percentage do any work at all, most of them are just roaming around visiting and trying to impress each other about their college education, but somehow can't seem to understand working at a job... p1tiful......

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Post ID: @2hcn+1qTHQogj

anybody that was not 100% telecommute prior to covid or being relocated needs to look at the last 3 years as a nice unexpected bonus that gave them what essentially amounts to a temporary raise. quit skirting the expectations of the job or look for a new one. not everyone was as lucky as you.

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Post ID: @2gwf+1qTHQogj

So true about concentration and quiet but also no one knows where anyone is sitting since it is musical chairs so even if you want to collaborate with your Team no one knows where anyone is sitting from day to day so it is hide and seek

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Post ID: @2mln+1qTHQogj

“ Why do people who seem to have no clue what’s going on keep chiming in?

“ I reported to my T location for 27 years. Didn't think anything about it. Just figured it was the cost to have a job. Don't like it? Find another job or start your own company.”

Now imagine after doing your job flawlessly for 27 years, I’m assuming in Alabama, you are told that job can now only be done well in Dallas. No pay raise, no promotion, no relocation. Spend a week of vacation and $15-30k moving, your teenagers hate you, your 70yr old mom is in tears, then they tell you on a town hall, not to your face, that there are no guarantees- T reserves the right to lay you off your first day there!”

Then quit crying and act like an adult and move on. Many have done it. I’ve done it. More will do it in the future. I guess you can stay, cry hoping to get your way until they let you go…

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Post ID: @2tvq+1qTHQogj

RTO is a mess and everyday it is musical chairs. Why can't they just have assigned seating even in open areas. Why must we roam around looking for a seat daily in order to do our job? Their are people sitting in the cafeteria, in the atrium , in the basement It is ridiculous. The room reservations do not hold. Also, it so loud and noisy and incessant chatter when some need quiet and concentration to write technical requirements and solutions. It is so loud one can not even think in open areas. Is leadership that removed that they do not understand what their resources do and that some jobs require quiet and concentration. We don't all just sit on meaningless calls all day. How can one concentrate when people are on calls and talking or stopping by every five minutes to talk with one another. Productivity has dropped and I have to work at home in the evening or like today on weekends to get actual work done.

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Post ID: @2fsh+1qTHQogj

Anyone else hear that they haven’t even been able to obtain the reports for RTO since Workday was implemented?

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Post ID: @1zoa+1qTHQogj

“ We have outside technicians working in below freezing temps ”

Not for much longer, contractors don’t complain.

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Post ID: @1nwb+1qTHQogj

if you ever take cp training with somebody at an avp level or above (maybe lower) you'll learn within the first 5 minutes that they open their mouth how little they identify or associate with the common level 1,2 employee and the customers

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Post ID: @1gft+1qTHQogj

Managers saved thousands of dollars in commuting costs and dining out expenses for over two years while telecommuting during COVID. This unexpected salary increase should now be used now to cover increased costs of transportation. if the additional money was properly invested, the money would have earned interest. Get to the office.

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Post ID: @1nfa+1qTHQogj

"RTO equates to getting to office at 8:30 "

Why so early?

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Post ID: @1ctm+1qTHQogj

“ Collaboration is basically water cooer talk and waste approximatey an hour and a half a day with chit ”

So basically exactly what you did before 2020, you stooge

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Post ID: @1imm+1qTHQogj

We have outside technicians working in below freezing temps while paper pushing managers are crying about driving into the office in Dallas for sushi day in the cafeteria. You people are pathetic.

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Post ID: @1tda+1qTHQogj

Guess I got lucky. It only costs me about $120 a month. Just gas for a short drive.

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Post ID: @1bph+1qTHQogj

FJB

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Post ID: @1ful+1qTHQogj

RTO equates to getting to office at 8:30 and walking around trying to find a seat which takes approx 40 minutes basically musical chairs. Always worried about leaving laptop and personal items when I go to get a coffee or if I run to get soup for lunch and although I bought a lock there is no docking station and no where to strap it. Collaboration is basically water cooer talk and waste approximatey an hour and a half a day with chit chat generally with people I do not know and nothing to do with work as I try to not be rude and break away to try and get some work done. Regardless. if we do not have offices and are in the open area why can we not have assigned seating? It is totally ridiculous. Last week I had to sit cafeteria and everybody kept stopping by to chit chat when I needed quiet and to think and get requirements documentation written for a 4:00PM mtg. Does the leadership understand some jobs need quiet and concentration to think and write solutions?

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Post ID: @1fzs+1qTHQogj

The shareholders care not about who is effected by RTO. The sooner you understand that the sooner you will understand you need to need to look out for yourself.
The shareholders demand a majority of profit from your labor.

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Post ID: @1dqm+1qTHQogj

I resent having to work for my paycheck. Less time to work on the house, Costco run, kid's soccer practice.

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Post ID: @1ghx+1qTHQogj

Why do people who seem to have no clue what’s going on keep chiming in?

“ I reported to my T location for 27 years. Didn't think anything about it. Just figured it was the cost to have a job. Don't like it? Find another job or start your own company.”

Now imagine after doing your job flawlessly for 27 years, I’m assuming in Alabama, you are told that job can now only be done well in Dallas. No pay raise, no promotion, no relocation. Spend a week of vacation and $15-30k moving, your teenagers hate you, your 70yr old mom is in tears, then they tell you on a town hall, not to your face, that there are no guarantees- T reserves the right to lay you off your first day there!

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Post ID: @1xoy+1qTHQogj

I reported to my T location for 27 years. Didn't think anything about it. Just figured it was the cost to have a job. Don't like it? Find another job or start your own company.
Now with that said, I grew to hate working there because of the EEO mentality and awful people that I worked for or with.

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