I just accepted an offer and I’m set to start in mid-November, but I’m seriously debating what, if anything, I owe my current manager. I’ve heard this place has a habit of cutting people loose the moment they say they’re leaving, so giving two full weeks feels risky. Part of me thinks that if they wouldn’t hesitate to walk me out early, then they haven’t really earned that courtesy. Right now I’m leaning toward just a few days’ notice and protecting myself instead.
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If you work in IT in the USA do this. Go land another job and secure your start date. On the Friday or day before you start the new gig give your notice at 3M. Both TX and MN are "at will" states for employment. You dont owe anything to the those in positions of corporate america power in the IT function. We are treated like dirt in IT, especially in the Strategy & Services unit of IT.
For a T6 to push the button and disappear for several months unnoticed speaks poorly of a number of things being dysfunctional on a lot of different levels. Aside from the immediate manager eventually being fired, hopefully a number of changes were implemented in order to prevent such a thing happening again. People at that level generally can’t disappear for more than a few days without someone noticing.
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Who is JB. Some more clues please. And tge manager ? I know CRL well but cannot place them
@m3 To clarify a little, JB left, moved out of state, and waited for his manager to notice he was gone. He was not concerned about any managerial retirement process and presumably enjoyed a handful of extra paychecks until folks noticed. Millennials didn’t invent quiet quitting.
The best part: they had to bring him back as a CW for a while due to his fluoromaterial expertise. Shipped a bunch of materials to his residence for remote work.
@m3 You are correct. I was there. JB left without giving notice to his worthless manager.
You don't owe 3M anything. You are a commodity to be marginalized and minimized....to the lowest cost provider/country your job goes. What's happening in IT is a perfect example...sit back with a bag of popcorn and drink and watch the fur fly.
The first step is a leap of faith...there is life and opportunity outside of 3M...fear not.
Know your worth and don't let your blade oxidize.
This is a true story not an urban legend. Ask anyone in CRML who worked during the pandemic and they can corroborate. The T6 scientist in question was an expert in nanomaterials.
@fq urban legend - regardless of the separation reason, the manager needs to initiate the termination process in workday. All “the button” does is start pension payments.
Employees cannot self retire.
During the pandemic, a highly respected T6 at CRL pulled off a masterstroke: he retired without informing his manager.
He quietly initiated the online process, kept his cards close to his chest, and walked into retirement on the last day of the month. No announcements, no farewell tour, no courtesy call to the boss, no 2 week notice, nothing at all. Nada!
Just a clean exit.
The manager (a classic DEI hire, who was eventually fired a few years later) , reportedly renowned for incompetence, universally disliked by pretty much everyone, and a spectacular deficit in people skills, was blissfully unaware until CRL management discovered that one of its veterans had vanished from the payroll.
Cue outrage, finger-pointing, and a generous serving of rotten eggs on managerial faces.
Sadly, by the time the penny dropped, the man was already enjoying retirement. No exit interview could undo it, and no emergency meeting could bring him back.
The irony? Management had failed to manage even an employee’s departure.
As they say, the bird had flown. The only thing left behind was the smell of scrambled managemen
Good question. Same situation move for more security moving forward. My boss was laid off so I guess I don’t have to tell anyone
Do what’s best for you. They wouldn’t think twice about you if they were making the choice.
If you give two weeks they don’t fire you that day. If they deem you a risk for secrets they pay you the two weeks and take your laptop. Before giving notice, clear your laptop of personal data. All data on the laptops is encrypted so you need to either email it, or get permission from IT to use a special storage drive. If you just port it to any old drive it won’t work at home.
5 working days should be enough. 2 weeks....that's ancient.
If you have a good manager I’d say give them 2 weeks. If you don’t? I’d say look out for yourself and give them as much notice as they’d give you.