Got called on it and told to do 8 hours
So the people that said you can just do 6 hours or 7 hours. That was all BS
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Everyone in Chandler gets bent over by NYC, Charlotte, and India. They schedule 5 and 6 AM meetings and want you to be in the office another 8 hours. Most work days are 10 hours here. Meanwhile they all leave early and refuse afternoon meetings. The level of IDGAF around this place is increasing.
The push to get all coaching/correcting into workday is so transparent it's insulting they think we don't see it. If you formalize ANYTHING like that in Workday it's a death sentence for the employees career. They instantly and forever become a target to "manage out". They'll use it as an excuse to give you no increases, and if that doesn't demoralize you enough to quit then they'll trump up some petty cr-p to "show a pattern of poor performance" and term you with no severance anyway. Anyone telling you it's about something else is lying to you. Sure, they'll say it's part of improving team and individual performance, but ask yourself, does Shart and the boys at HY really care about your performance? When you'll be leaving anyway? No, they couldn't care less. You're going to go, this is just all a scheme that allows them to get rid of you for free.
I know for a fact my low IQ manager and the ones on his favorites list only do six hours, while he comes down on others who do less than 8. Rules for thee, not for mee. WF is the most unfair company to ever exist.
@h2 this is so false it’s actually funny. “Do a check-in, and then just do whatever you want! Trust me!” Probably Charlie trying to trick someone into getting into trouble
It most definitely varies depending on LOB/manager. They have a lot of flexibility. That is what work day check ins are for. If you have early morning meetings that need to be taken before you can get into the office, do a check in.
If you have work at night and want to get home a little bit early to have dinner and a break before getting back to work, do a work day check in.
Managers need to be able to defend why you have less hours.
It is the same with the 3 days a week in office expectations. If you can’t make it in, do a work day check in. They have flexibility there too.
Talk to your manager.
@cw this is the real issue, they want to track employees clocking in and out like they're hourly, but also expect them to flex their time to accommodate different time zones like they're salaried. It's a recipe for time theft, bottom line. It's especially an issue if you work in AZ or other western states, the pressure to take early calls to accommodate the east coast and all the cheap workers in India is constant. I'm fortunate to have a manager who is a decent person and accepts when I push back and decline early meetings on in-office days, but I can easily see how bad it could be if you end up working for an inflexible manager
The most frustrating part of all this is it's a permanent solution to a temporary problem. The c-suite wasn't seeing attrition numbers they liked, they put in place some monitoring focused on a painful/annoying metric to try to juice those numbers. The attrition numbers move (or don't), the moment passes, but the metric stays in place permanently afterwards. And we continue evolving towards a panopticon
When a major corporation spends its time on this nonsense, it's all you need to know. They're lost and the only way to appease the BOD is more firings to hopefully improve the bottom line. Pitiful. Truly pitiful.
My manager showed me the dashboard about a month ago and it definitely showed my hour average, but it just said "8+" and wasn't more specific than that (side note that I absolutely NEVER average 8 hours in a week, but it's close, probably 7:45ish. So there's some rounding involved).
Have they updated the dashboard? It never showed hours or timestamps before, just the days, and if some was compliant on hrs..
All LOBs get the same data, and the expectations for 8 hour days are consistent across the enterprise. What others are pointing out is whether your LOB tells managers to speak to employees at various averages (anything less than 8, 7.5, under 7 hours, etc). That's where you'll see variances in execution (for now). Just know that if you are told you are on the list, you've already got a "less than" reputation and need to remedy it quickly.
In 26 years I've never once worked under 8 hours in a regular workday. Not once. HY can F off with their grade school nonsense. Any time they want to start writing severance checks, I'm right here. These people are a complete failure in leadership. No one gives an S about the company anymore and our trajectory is completely unsustainable.
I had the same issue raised. The problem for me is i'm on the west coast have to be on super early calls with India and the East coast, and i typically come into office afterwards. Only at this company would they treat professionals with grad degrees like Amazon warehouse employees. I put in 10 hour work days. I look forward to my next place of employment, this place treats their best employees like absolute trash. Never mind my wages haven't moved for 5-8 years, inflation adjusted im down likely 30-40%, any job move will give me a massive pay increase.
It's ridiculous that they expect a solid 8 hours of solid work from every single employee, every single day.
The only job where I ever had that constant of a workload was in a phone bank.
@cd person to person actually. See remote and site exceptions.
My LOB is 7.5 hours
@cn definitely NOT manager specific. Do you even work at wells? Managers do not have authority over in-office requirements. LOB heads possibly but definitely not managers
@cn typos. My error.
LOB specific and even manager specific. Play it wisely and do your 8. Plenty of other things to say accurately say aren’t fair and beyond your control. This is completely within your control.
If the biggest concern for the bank is squeezing a couple million out of workers, we obviously have no long-term sustainability plan.
Wells Fargo prides itself on inconsistency from department to department.
It all depends upon management. Some are good with 7 hours. On the other end some want 9 hours because they are assuming 1 hour for lunch.
Why not just do what your told to do instead of believing what internet weirdos tell you?
It's LOB specific and why would anyone take true direction from this board?
So VERY thankful to be retired and out of this sh-tshow.
Totally LOB dependent as has been stated here countless times.