Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

A thought for people who survive a RIF

I've been thinking about this because I've now been on both sides of it. I've made the calls. I've been the person on Zoom or the phone telling someone their job was being eliminated. And then last year I got the call myself. I thought I understood what that felt like because I'd watched people go through it and I'd had some really difficult conversations with people I cared about. I didn't. Not completely.

One day you're working. Your calendar is full, you're in the middle of projects, people are calling you, and you're thinking about what needs to happen next week or next quarter. Then suddenly you're not part of any of it. The company keeps moving, your meetings still happen, your work gets reassigned and eventually people you talked to every day stop calling. That's not a criticism of them. They still have jobs to do and you're simply not part of their working lives anymore. It takes some time to get your head around how quickly that happens.

That's why I have a hard time with some of the survivor posts immediately after a RIF. We lost great people, we'll raise a glass to them tonight, tomorrow we rebuild, we push on, we continue the mission. I know most people who write this stuff mean well, but think for a second about the people who just got cut. The company just told them they're no longer part of the mission. Trust me, they already know you're going to push on without them. They don't need you to tell them.

There's something else I think people who survive these things need to understand. If you've survived five RIFs, don't convince yourself you've somehow gotten good at surviving RIFs, or that continuing to survive means you're special or safe. I've been involved in making these decisions and that's simply not how it works.

Sometimes a product goes away. Sometimes the strategy changes. Sometimes they need to take cost out of one organization and not another. Sometimes two groups get combined and suddenly there are two people for one job. And when you get down into the list, HR and the lawyers are looking at it too. They're looking at age, gender and other protected groups because the company needs to understand whether the RIF creates an adverse-impact or discrimination problem. I've actually participated in this process. When you get into close decisions, factors other than who is the better employee can absolutely become part of reviewing that list.

So maybe your product survived. Maybe your particular job was needed in the new organization. Maybe you ended up on the right side of the ledger this time. Or maybe you just got lucky. None of that means you aren't good at your job. It just means you shouldn't assume the person who got cut wasn't every bit as good at theirs.

If you really want to help the people who lost their jobs, help them. Make the introduction, send the resume, pick up the phone, write the recommendation. Then go back to work. You don't need to post about how you're going to carry on with the mission. They already know.

And if you've survived five RIFs, maybe the lesson isn't that you're safe.

Maybe it's that you've been lucky five times.


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At least layoff over Zoom would require human interaction.
I just got a tacky e-mail on 3/31. Maybe I'll return my laptops soon.
(I'm not kidding.)

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Post ID: @ce+1m2jvfbtj

Cheer for those who were let go. Us - survivors - are the real losers to be sla-ghtered later and meanhwile to be taken advantage of.

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Post ID: @ca+1m2jvfbtj

@a7 Would you really want to sit through that awkward meeting? Maybe it would make you feel better but I would always prefer to just get the email and be done with it. I don't need some a-hole to tell me how sorry they are when they really aren't.

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Post ID: @bd+1m2jvfbtj

Many excellent employees are let go while those who do not perform but brown nose are kept. I have seen local management gather together and laugh about how they got rid of someone just because they did not like them. Zero professionalism.

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Post ID: @as+1m2jvfbtj

@a5 After the SUNW layoff of 2017, survivors were given small bonuses to boot morale. It didn't work.

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Post ID: @aa+1m2jvfbtj

Imagine being laid off over Zoom. Those of us in the past couple waves didn't even get that courtesy.

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Post ID: @a7+1m2jvfbtj

You make such a valid point. I know those “we’ll raise a glass tonight and keep pushing” posts usually come from a good place, but they can feel really off. The people who were just let go are still reeling. They don’t need to watch us toast the fact that we’re still here while they’re not. They already know the company will move on without them.

If we’re still at Oracle, do what the OP suggested. Actually help. Make the intro. Send the job lead. Refer them. Look over their resume. Write the recommendation. Pick up the phone and check in like a human being. Support our friends who were forced to leave by doing whatever we can to help them with their job hunt.

A text, a referral, a recommendation. That’s support! Then go back to work with a little more gratitude and a lot more empathy.

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Post ID: @a5+1m2jvfbtj

Sorry I'm not reading the whole thing. But what I think you are realizing is what "withdrawal" feels like. Human beings become chemically attached to things. If its not a dr-g, its your brain creating hormones that bind you through psychological attachment. So when you have something occupying your capacity for attachment and then it is taken away, absolutely yes you feel it. Its a void. Its all apart of being human! Relationships, jobs, junk food etc all have their different levels of withdrawal and grief when taken away. But you know what won't be taken away? Eternal life with the Lord (or whoever your God is). Don't be so attached to humanly earthly things. Nurture your connection with God and live a good life so you have the best eternal life you can after this.

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Post ID: @a3+1m2jvfbtj

Good post. I'm a survivor this time and have been through many of these in the past, and like you have had to deliver the bad news to employees, but for the first time I'm wondering if surviving this is a good thing. I can't help thinking that I'm the zombie in this particular apocalypse. My time will come and I'm looking forward to it but in the meantime I'll show up. I can't honestly promise anymore than that.

To the victims, you have my heartfelt... condolences? Not sure what the right word is there. Keep your chin up and move on to greener pastures. It's getting pretty dry around here.

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