What, precisely, is their function? They seems to have ample time to dissect the most trivial of PowerPoints and visitor agendas. Beyond convening superfluous meetings and squandering the time of others, do they contribute anything of genuine value? Do they even know what real work means.
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@s4 That is not surprising. And the irony is, if you speak out against them in the general public, they call YOU racist. The sui-idal empaths follow no logic. Just give the country over to anyone who wants it whether or not they agree with your same values.
They are running charitable into the ground.
Indian managers are good at saying "yes" to the managers above them and saying "no" to the employees beneath them.
That's about it.
Honorable mention: they are good at laying off anyone who isn't Indian and replacing them with Indians.
So that's about all you get. The rest is a bunch of jumbled talking with thick accents and broken English in powerpoint slides.
When I was a director in Boston (2008–2013), we were tasked with building the future leadership pipeline for the U.S. and India hubs. I know a lot of the current SVP/VP crop from when they were junior devs and PMs. Honestly, the true high-potentials moved on to better things. The ones who stayed climbed the ladder, but they seemed to absorb the executive attitude and LinkedIn branding culture rather than actual leadership substance.
yet look around the floor and this is all you see.
@e7 totally agree. Our area took ownership of their apps as they got phased out of our area. They had daily calls and issues requiring manual intervention. Once we got ownership we fixed the underlying issues quite easily and 2 years later there has been 0 manual intervention needed.
They leave apps in a bad state to make work and justify their existence
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India leadership, most of them, are simply good for nothing. Most of them do not understand the business. Take dumps from G7/G6 and pretend to know everything in meetings with stakeholders. They are good in event management, visitor excel and ppt format creation and going for an irrelevant and useless offsite. DEI is at play for many, are there in their position not because they deserve but because the “DEI number” should look good in the eyes of SLT in US.
Its visitor season now, and its time for all useless G7 / G8 to shine.
India leaders hire the worst talent possible to sc--w up everything they touch so they have infinite work for their onshore buddies to “fix”. Its the biggest scam ever. We dont need a single worker offshore all they create is needless headaches.
And no one cares…..
@bn you make good points. There are many VPs getting exceptions. Also if you notice job postings are getting very specific for the ones labeled “work from home”. Useless. They only show up to read a power point at an all hands.
Thanks for remembering
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There are way too many unproductive way too long too minutia of phone calls. It wastes time and is unnecessary.
Period full stop. As is driving in to an office into Boston a total waste of productivity. It should be flexible with a minimum of 12 days a month being in office at our discretion unless there is a very inioetsnt reason to come into the office in a specific day here and there If the ENTIRE corporation isn’t mandated then NO ONE should be mandated. It’s unfair and arbitrary. Reminiscent of the stupid arbitrary mandates of Covid. I thought Fidelity was above all that. Seems they got the mind virus later than most. Unfortunate really
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AI;DR
Whether in India or Indiana, a leader doesn't necessarily need a meeting to improve the work. Improving the work is only one dimension.
Lets take your example of nitpicking a PowerPoint (this is big in the U.S too). That action can reinforce their authority: my approval matters, I am watching, and you have to defend your work to me however minor a point I make.
Seperately there is is managerial theater. If the leader doesn't understand the underlying system well enough to challenge it substantively, they may focus on whatever they can control—wording, formatting, dates, slides, minor inconsistencies. It creates the appearance of competence and oversight while giving the leader political protection: we reviewed the work.
Also more astute leaders can learn a lot even when micro-managing -- who knows the details, how do folks react under pressure, etc