Thread regarding 3M layoffs

If the new hr team wants to inflict maximum pain, they would go after the remote workers in the 5 state area that are outside the 50 mile radius. That’s close enough for everyone to drive into saint paul, while maximizing pain for those affected. Those poor souls who weren’t smart enough to move are already feeling the rto impacts.

I am so tired of everyone with every company getting frustrated they have to return to the office. People have had to go to work the entire time, no wage increase for the gas, their clothes, the childcare, and let alone their time commuting. I see retail stores busier now during the days for all these "working from home" employees. I say if they want to continue to WFH, then there should be a 5% deduction off your pay or reward the people going to the office daily!!! People are so SPOILED and entitled now

News people have it worse in their offices.

@11d what are you gonna say, "my employer is making things unpleasant because they want layoffs"?

Meanwhile, Billy Boy: "Nuh-uh, stock price go brrrrrr!"

News outlets: "Oh yeah, good point; nobody who manipulates stock prices through buybacks could be bad at business and worse at leadership."

Would there be any benefit to someone bringing all of this up to a local news station? Shine some light on the sneaky dealings to get people to quit or hide the layoffs?

@xx Bill would prefer you don't go in at all; that's why he's doing this.

Layoffs look bad, but if you leave voluntarily because working at 3M is too awful to tolerate, well that just shows up on the P&L as reduced labor costs

….just don’t go in 5 days a week

@wf actually, there were plenty of people that were hired in St. Paul to work fully remote and comfortably at home. Just because you and others can’t handle working from home, doesn’t mean the rest of us can’t.

i think the RTO 5 days mandate would be effective soon. likely Q4'2026 or latest from 2027 January. The company needs all employees on deck in FULL to keep the engagement high. You are paid to work on site, not seated comfortably at your home!

I’m working with the new chro. We are very aligned on rto5. It will sift out the slackers, the oldies, and Gen Z crybabies. We are moving forward swiftly on this one.

@jj while I fully agree with your statements on working more effective at home, I respectfully disagree with the variance in rto mandate for LIKE roles for distant remote people. RTO mandate should be by type of role, not by where a person was hired. Most of us can work remote and work more effectively remote. If mandated for those closer to a site, then it should also be mandated for those distant in the same type of role. Anything else should be challenged in court.

@j7 I was hired remote in a different state so why should I have to move when I get all work done and more from where I am located. I worked in an office for years but get more accomplished working remote. I dont get sick as often so less sick days. Overall, I find more people pay attention in a teams meeting versus in person. Working remotely 2 or 3 days was before covid and its a shame that people are forced to go back to the office now.

@j7 I'm fine with that if we also apply the rule to our Indian contractors.

If they can't come into the office in St. Paul to "collaborate" then they need to go.

Why is it so important for us who have the misfortune of being physically near the PFAS dumping grounds, but cheap international labor is fine to stay remote?

@hv I do hope that is the case and none of this BS for people who live too far away, office or out no exceptions. Move closer to an office if you want to keep your job and ensure plenty EV charging points and whilst we are at it better food and drink that doesn’t take all my pay check. Same rules for all sites, fed up of some people constantly getting exceptions, if your face fits you can do what you like everyone else gets shafted,

@OP 100% this is going to happen globally , they are already putting the plans place to increase space. BB is prepared to spend money to get the likes of Germany and UK working full time in the offices again.

The 5 day RTO will be the first task of the new CHRO to announce.

Pre-pandemic many of us were allowed to work from home one or two days a week.

Then the pandemic hit and we all went to totally remote.

Going back to five days RTO is just yet another example about how 3M under BB is a shadow of the company it used to be. Worse than it's been in 20 years.

Fine. But then don't expect us to give up all our personal time. You don't get it both ways. If we can't work from home, then we can't work from home. That means when I leave the office, I'm done. No expecting me to call into meetings late at night or wee hours of morning. No meetings outside of the "normal" 10 hour workday. If we can't work at home, then expectations need to adjust on all ends.

What I am not reading in this RTO thread is the obvious which has already been happening for sometime with all these quiet and subtle layoffs...working the equivalent of 6 days a week. By necessity most of the worker bees are at 50-6 hours just to maintain operations. Why you might ask? Well the answer is classic and simple and that's simply that work was not taken out of the system as we have endured the endless quiet and subtle layoffs and downsizing.

Raise your hand to ask the question on priorities and how to maintain with less and you find yourself on the list to get optimized and then performance managed out of a job.

@e0 which hill would you prefer we die on then? The one where they took pensions away? The one where they removed investment opportunities for higher technical levels? The one where they are farming most new positions outside of the US? The one where they’re quietly firing just enough people every month to not have to report it? Should I keep going?

Just go to the damn office. There are other hills to die on when hating the company. Ge-z.

Its a big promotion for the new CHRO. All the existing HR SVP have to submit to her.

@b8 the new CHRO got a big pay jump, moving from VP to executive VP role in 3M. For sure, she will do whatever BB says.

@a4

How about a trade? Five day RTO for me, no bootlicking for you? But alas, how would you ever survive on your own merits...😅😆😅

Of course it’s coming. Agree it’s the first thing the new HR lady will do whether it’s her own idea or Bill idea.

I think its time to mandate 5 days RTO. Imagine it could drive up share price with the productivity gain. The new CHRO will join and implement this.