This past Thursday morning, I got a meeting invite for this upcoming Tuesday at 9am for a check in with my manager.
Is this the call? I haven’t even been here a year… Also strange that I have another check in two weeks, on a Thursday around noon.
Maybe I’m just paranoid? Just how they want me I guess.
@wq
Good for you!! (assuming you work in a not-too-toxic work environment).
Glad you were not on "the list" at least this week. But as you know, the action goes on. You might be on the list next week.
My only advice - try to move any mtgs with your boss away from Tuesday 9am. Check reaction. If they insist, clean out your desk.
For me, my 1-1 was moved to Tuesday 9am and it wasn't a check-in at all. It was a termination meeting.
@v7 very odd you're taking credit for my own post. Think people like you are what's wrong with this site.
However this poster is correct. It was simply just a check in call.
@v7 Double standards anyone? Guessing it's not really OP. Or if it is OP, they're a pyschopath.
@v7 if you’re truly the OP then your latest comment is just mean and inconsiderate now that you feel safe, I sincerely hope that it was just a troll comment, but if not, I assess you as someone who is humble and nice when you think you’re in trouble and need help, but then become your usual arrogant self when you think you have the advantage. I read all the responses and almost all of them were trying to help you and be supportive and I hope they continue to be so for others, despite this latest post. People come here for the most part to support each other and give intel that they don’t really have to give.
OP here, it was just a regular call.
Some of you really need to get off this forum, and offline more broadly, and get outside more. Much more to life than talking about WF on some sh---y website.
Check ins were to check in on progress meeting goals that were not Meets
You guys don’t realize OP’s manager scheduled two meetings at the same time, and the first happens to be Tuesday at 9am.
They are fine.
@ec
As someone from IT - I can attest that email size is limited except for authorized destinations. Certain attachment types can no longer be sent. Also, any kid of recognized data, such as account numbers, social security numbers will be flagged and blocked.
A simple email to test, such as the word "Testing" in the header and body should go through. Unless you are in a LOB that denies everything as policy. In IT, we didn't have that policy - we used emails to communicate with vendors all the time. (Cisco, Arista, Microsoft, etc)
Because we use a proxy system, your email will be intercepted, decoded, and sent on if it passes the filters. If you are blocked, you and your boss will likely get a notification.
Also, certain names, such as leaders of the firm are a reason to block emails if mentioned anywhere in the text. If you send something with chainsaw's name in it, you, your boss, and even higher get notified. And likely put on a risk list which will further squeeze whatever email privileges you had.
Something to think about.
To the people saying to send a test email outside the company as a test for getting laid off, this doesn’t really work any more. Most email accounts already can no longer send outside. This has nothing to do with getting laid off - just the technology policy for everyone to reduce risk and data leaks. You have to have a justified reason to send emails outside the company now, or they cut off that ability.
In addition to external email sending being cut night/early AM beforehand you'll also lose your ability to print.
Would I be worried? Yes, I would send a reschedule meeting invite back as someone else suggested and gauge the response. It is pretty tone deaf for that mgr to schedule a random 1:1 for a Tuesday for that time slot but again that's the lovely WF culture currently.
@cf this happened to me right before I was displaced.
@cf
I can't speak to your list question - but if you had previously sent external emails and now you can't? That's something to ask about.
I haven't gotten any emails or calls but I can't send emails outside of Wells. I assumed it was because of my role.
Is it common for some employees not to be able to send external email? Or am I on a list?
@aj
My experience too. If your email can no longer send external emails (try a test send to your personal) then that is your clue.
They cut email the early hours or the midnight before. And, once you attend "the meeting" your access will be cut in less than an hour. That's what you can expect if you are on the list.
@ax not op but I never get meeting details, notes, etc. for my one on ones. Always a blank invite. I wouldn't rely on that as being a factor.
I received the email on a Thursday. Normally, I will get topics to think about , and that time I didn’t. Worried about it all weekend. It was THE call. Why send it in advance, just send that day. But this company’s leadership likes to watch the employees sweat. It’s their flex.
Decline with a counter propose. Try rescheduling your Wed for a doc appt or get invited to big group math you can’t miss. Book up your calendar test if that day. See what happens.
@aj sounds like ur just projecting lmao
You're probably fine, don't listen to the miserable loonies on here. They're just looking to drag everyone down with them.
OK so here's the deal. IF you cannot send email outside WF Monday late, or Tuesday early AM, then you are TOAST. My manager rescheduled my 1-1 to Tuesday at 9am. What I noticed is that it was moved from another day to that day, and it was the Tuesday after payday.
Logging in Tuesday AM, I was working and sending email. But, I started seeing "failure to send" messages. And then I went to my meeting, and got the "dear john" story. "we don't need you, you can log off now, buh bye!!" (yes literally)
Those are your tells. Frankly....I'd get prepared prior to the meeting.
Molly, you in dangeř girl
@a9 yes!! Wish it wasn’t true but it is. Like I know I’m 95% in the clear but that 5% is the loudest in the room.
This place really does su-k.
@a8 And yet you're here worried about it, right? It's a su-ky culture.
This is the OP. Honestly it would be wild to get laid off so early.
I can think of at least 5 different things this meeting could relate to. Plus my boss sending multiple meeting invites at the same time tells me this will be a recurring convo I’m sure.
That said, still no need for these petty mind games.
@a6 I wouldn't try to rationalize it either way. I also had future meetings scheduled. It could mean layoff, it could mean nothing. It could be a check in to talk about others who were impacted. You just don't know.
That's what makes this constant stream of layoffs so horrible. Everyone is terrified all the time. It's not a good way to do business.
@a5 it wouldn’t make sense to have multiple meetings scheduled. Maybe if it was just the Tuesday at 9am.
But the following Thursday makes it seem like a regular 1:1.
@a1 My manager used the 1:1 to lay me off heh. They just rescheduled it to the Tuesday after payday at 10 am.
OP is right to be nervous.
I think it’s kind of inconsiderate of the manager to schedule it on a Tuesday after payday knowing the environment WF is in right now. The manager should at least give a disclaimer via IM not to worry. My manager did that for me. My other manager ensured meeting was in the afternoon and he included topics to cover in invite.
@a1 I agree it’s probably a true check in. Just weird I haven’t had a 1:1 since comp discussions a few weeks ago.
Maybe my manager forgot and put these on my calendar. Who knows.
Its your 1:1 lol if you have 2 of them back to back weeks. If they are to let you go it would be just one call usually day off or night before they send invite