Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

Why are reviews so secretive and last minute?

I can't see my year end review in Workday. Isn't the deadline a couple days? Why is it only made available to me minutes before the review meeting?

I don't understand why I can't at least read it more than an hour in advance of the formal meeting.

Why so secretive? I'm going to see it anyway. When were these finalized?

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Post ID: @OP+1kJm1RTb

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Sounds like many of you have sh!ttty managers and are all now bitter and accept this. If it truly bothered you, you’d be going first to your manager and then on up the chain. I have always gotten mine days before any phone call

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Post ID: @2fcu+1kJm1RTb

Because we are still writing the reviews! Hang in there.

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Post ID: @2roy+1kJm1RTb

@1bfw+1kJm1RTb

You can decline accepting it, and let your manager know that because you would like to address some of the feedback, you will provide your responses first.

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Post ID: @1thh+1kJm1RTb

Manager here.

the manager controls when you can see it, by clicking "submit". there is no policy or systemic limitation restricting it.

Once the manager releases it in workday though, it can no longer be edited by the manager.

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Post ID: @1afu+1kJm1RTb

My manager opens the call first, and THEN sends me my review. I have zero opportunity to review it ahead of time. This is the way it's always been.

Any problems or "areas of concern" are surprises that are only learned during the review, many of which are demonstrably false or can be strongly refuted. Never an opportunity to be made aware of something that's wrong during the year, when action could be taken to correct something. My manager schedules 1 on 1's, but never shows up. All they are good for is blocking a timeslot on a schedule.

Then he always asks me to "acknowledge" the review before ending the call, saying "this just means that we did this review".

Clearly - CLEARLY - these reviews are absolutely NOT based on job performance. They are based on social standing with your manager.

The way they do these reviews is questionable. The best way to turn a good employee into a bad employee is to tell them that they're not doing a good job, without any possible supporting evidence.

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Post ID: @1bfw+1kJm1RTb

I really don’t give a cr@p what my review says. I’m here for the paycheck and not some dimwit’s opinion of me.

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Post ID: @1asv+1kJm1RTb

I received my review a day or two prior to a meeting with my manager.

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Post ID: @1rtj+1kJm1RTb

When you get the review minutes before the meeting take the time to read it. Then show up to your meeting, even if you're late, and if your manager asks why you were late, let them know you were late because you were reviewing your review that was sent to you at the last minute.

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Post ID: @1dcj+1kJm1RTb

The manager releases the review before the discussion. There is no need to release a review and have a person stew in question either negative or positive. All you guys talking negative and layoffs are toxic jeeerks

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Post ID: @khq+1kJm1RTb

You must be new here. It's been this way for over 15 years. The good change is that they moved up the dates. We used to not get bonuses and reviews for another month.

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Post ID: @cwy+1kJm1RTb

"It might be that your manager is going to lay you off."

STOP THE FEARMONGERING! JFC. These conversations are slated to be completed through 1/27.

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Post ID: @tdk+1kJm1RTb

It might be that your manager is going to lay you off. They haven't bothered making a review or having you compose one. You will know soon enough... probably make an early Thursday meeting with you.

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Post ID: @dez+1kJm1RTb

When worked there, my eoy review was surprising. I thought I was doing ok because no one had said anything to me about my work. When I got my review, comments were that I should help out more than I was, work wasn't always accurate. What? The daggers came out.

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Post ID: @wag+1kJm1RTb

My manager usually sends it an hour before the call. However, it's never much of a surprise because you write your own review at the level I'm employed at, and then your manager massages/signs off on it.

Mine always gives us updates on the timelines and when they expect to conduct them. My manager isn't bad, though.

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Post ID: @uaa+1kJm1RTb

You’re lucky lol. We’ve been writing our own reviews for years and our manager just changes a few words, adds a rating, and submits them.

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Post ID: @zjo+1kJm1RTb

Transparency isn’t something that Wells Fargo excels at. There’s a true lack of courage in leadership from the top down. The only way for them to keep their hold over any of us is to constantly keep us off balance. 🤷🏻

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Post ID: @cfo+1kJm1RTb

Due to the forced stacked ranking most managers do not have any good news to relay to their team. There is no sense in giving their reports more time to be upset. Truth hurts

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Post ID: @rvv+1kJm1RTb

Good managers always make sure that their team members know where they stand at all times. Good managers in effect make the review process a simple formality.

As the previous answer indicated, WF does NOT have good managers. Not by a long shot.

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Post ID: @yyz+1kJm1RTb

Because Wells Fargo is so toxic and your manager wants to catch you unprepared.

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Post ID: @zte+1kJm1RTb

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